Roddenberry's lyrics

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  1. plynch

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    Same chord progression as Out of Nowhere. Chord progressions not copyrightable. Why so many bebop tunes are convoluted melodies over the chords of I Got Rhythm and put a new name on it.
     
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    That's how director Robert Altman's son Michael ended up earning more on the movie M*A*S*H than his father ever did. Michael Altman wrote the lyrics used in the theme song "Suicide is Painless" and earned more than $1 million in royalties on the TV series because it used the theme, even though his lyrics were never heard. Not bad for something a 14-year-old dashed off in five minutes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_Is_Painless
     
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  3. Mytran

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    At least those lyrics actually had their moment on screen though (in the movie version of MASH)
     
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  4. Daddy Todd

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    Thanks for sharing this. It's posts like this that keep me coming back to the Trek BBS
     
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  5. ZapBrannigan

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    It's a depraved song, probably did a lot of harm to some families.
     
  6. fireproof78

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    Still weirded me out to learn the title of the opening theme of my favorite TV show of all time.
     
  7. Nerys Myk

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    There should be a mash up of Gene's lyrics and Bobby Darin's "Beyond the Sea'.
     
  8. scotpens

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    You must be a relative youngster. I knew the M*A*S*H TV show theme was an instrumental version of "Suicide is Painless" because I saw the movie first!
     
  9. fireproof78

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    I mean, maybe. Depends on who you ask. One client guessed I was 50 last week.

    But, I never got in to the MASH film, found it rather unpleasant. The TV show was much more my speed.
     
  10. Nerys Myk

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    I recall my parents saw the film. My dad, a Korean War veteran, had a mixed reaction.
     
  11. Trekker09

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    It does seem the words were trying (unsuccessfully) for the same vibe as “Beyond the sea” --even more so in Gene Coon’s lyrics to “Beyond Antares” which Uhura sang a couple times.

    I've read that there were at least 3 space tv shows before Trek - Space Patrol, Buck Rogers, and Lost in Space. None of them had melodic theme music, mostly eerie electronic sounds strung together. So Trek was the first to have a memorable instrumental - which also became a radio hit. The theme has several chromatic shifts but ends in major chords, suggesting a more upbeat, optimistic tone than the earlier shows.
     
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  12. Harvey

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    Courage's theme was a radio hit?
     
  13. plynch

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    Was there a disco/hooked on classics version?
     
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    Todd Rundgren & Utopia recorded a disco version in 1976, though it wasn't released till an archival album in 2001.
     
  15. plynch

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    Wow. Faithful to the original arrangement (countermelodies etc.).
     
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    Thanks very much! :)
    The movie is not endorsing the POV of the song. The Swampmen all work to prevent the camp dentist from committing suicide.
     
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    But that single didn't chart [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meco#Charted_singles].

    So, no example of a radio hit has been produced so far. I'm highly skeptical that there even is one.
     
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  19. plynch

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    There’s horrifically awesome Trek rap in the middle of that!
     
  20. ZapBrannigan

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    I never would have heard that part if you hadn't mentioned it. I was even afraid you were kidding, to trick people into sitting through the whole thing, But you weren't kidding. :crazy: