If a Different Series Did That Episode

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  1. Phoenix219

    Phoenix219 Commodore Commodore

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    YES!

    And, to top it all off, it was also split the way Riker's was - so this is a copy of Trip from before he died!
     
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  2. somebuddyX

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    I don't know if I've ever hated any of the series ships but I think there's something interesting about the idea of being able to change the exterior shots of the ships over a whole episode or film. Like I've made pictures where the TOS film ships in TNG episodes were replaced by contemporaries of the Galaxy-class. Or imagine seeing the Enterprise-D in First Contact or the Borg-modified version of Voyager continuing past "The Gift" or the TOS Enterprise in TMP. JTVFX has redone the final shot of "Call to Arms" but threw in the Negh'var, New Orleans-class, Intrepid-class, Ambassador-class, and so on. I think it's interesting as a look at what-ifs more than changing the films or episodes themselves.
     
  3. at Quark's

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    Darmok - Enterprise.

    Archer on planet to alien captain: you dared to kidnap me, even after I gave you the Gazelle Speech? It's a shame you didn't transport Porthos with me, now I'll have to pee on that little notebook of yours myself!
     
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  4. dupersuper

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    Well, obviously...
     
  5. FederationHistorian

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    ENT: Carpenter Street
    Give it to DIS


    Burnham and Book are recruited to travel over 1000 years back in time to the 21st century – even though time travel is against the law.

    ENT: Home
    Give it to VOY


    Voyager returns home, Janeway shows remorse for her actions in the Delta Quadrant, Tuvok reunites with his family on Vulcan, & Kim watches Libby get married to someone else.

    ENT: Impulse
    Give it to TOS


    Kirk and Spock deal with Vulcan zombies on a derelict Vulcan ship. Kirk's shirt rips in the process.

    TNG: Tapestry
    Give it to VOY


    Q gives Janeway the chance to relive her life to alter her past in order to change the present, but finds out that while Voyager never goes to the Delta Quadrant, blue shirt Janeway doesn't drink any coffee either.

    DS9: Trials and Tribble-ations
    Give it to VOY


    Janeway gets to ride shotgun with Kirk, while B’Elanna answers the hard question about Klingon ridges

    VOY: Threshold
    Give it to TNG


    Data breaks the warp 10 barrier, and doesn’t turn into a salamander. He doesn't turn into anything at all.

    DS9: For the Uniform
    Give it to DIS


    Burnham angrily argues with someone who left the Federation for a rebel group and poisons a planet in the process.

    ENT: The Forge
    Give it to DIS


    After the Federation Embassy has been bombed on Ni’ Var, Burnham has to find one of two suspects - a Ni’Var rebel group called the Syrranites - in the Forge and gets chased by a Sehlat. Andorians that remain under the banner of the Emerald Chain are considered the other suspects.

    TNG: The Big Goodbye
    Give it to DIS


    Burnham and other members of the Discovery crew gets stuck in a holonovel that’s set in the 1940s.
     
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  6. somebuddyX

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    My write up of if DS9 had done Voyager's major storylines.
    ALTERNATE DS9

    • The story begins with Commander Benjamin Sisko (Kathryn Janeway) taking command of space station Deep Space Nine. His first officer is Major Kira Nerys (Chakotay).

    • DS9 would introduce the Bajorans (Ocampa) being harassed by the Cardassians (Kazon) and the DS9 crew having to step in to defend them due to the death of the Wormhole Aliens (Caretaker).

    • They would have different storylines each week of different varieties with light continuity.

    • Other antagonist aliens like the Miradorn (Vidiians) appeared in Season 1 and 2.

    • Eventually the Cardassian and Miradorn storylines dried up at the end of Season 2. In Season 3 the Dominion (Borg) made appearances in two mid-season episodes, introducing themselves. The end of the season reveals that the Dominion is at war with the Pah-Wraiths (Species 8472). Sisko realises that the Pah-Wraiths winning the war might put the Alpha Quadrant at risk and negotiates an alliance with the Dominion.

    • Season 4 opens with Sisko developing chroniton-based weapons that will kill Pah Wraiths. After successfully deploying them the Pah Wraiths retreat back to their realm.

    • Season 4 bring the Dominion in as recurring threats, who will appear in a total of twenty-three episodes over the entire series, along with the Female Founder as a foil for both Sisko and Odo.

    • If Season 4 of ALTDS9 played the same as REALVOY, then Odo (Seven of Nine) joined the cast here. Of course it's possible he joined in the first season and it's only now that he becomes aware of his origin. After some teasing in the prior season, Worf (Tom Paris) and Jadzia (B'Elanna Torres) begin their relationship for real in this season.

    • The fifth season finale and sixth season opener introduces the starship Valiant, a starship that was using unethical methods to wage a private war against an enemy species. Sisko and the Defiant hunt it down and stop it. Members of it's crew are taken back to DS9 and set up to be recurring characters but are never seen again.

    • The sixth season finale and seventh season opener reveal that a Dominion resistance group, Freedom is Life, has sprung up led by the rogue Changeling Laas, Weyoun 6 and Goran'Agar. Odo makes contact with Laas and persuades Sisko to help the group. Whilst carrying out their mission Sisko, Dax and O'Brien are captured by the Dominion and thrown into an internment camp, although this was part of their overall plan. They are successful in transmitting a broadcast signal which override a percentage of all Vorta and Jem'Hadar's belief that the Founders are gods. A civil war begins in the Dominion, although outside of one mention in the series finale, Freedom is Life is never seen again.

    • The series finale begins in the future, ten years after the conflict with the Dominion was concluded. The cold war that DS9 experienced during it's run finally erupted into a hot war and lasted for sixteen years. Since then Odo and Kira have died, Julian Bashir (EMH) has married a random woman, Jadzia and Worf are still together and have a child, Nog is a starship commander of the USS Oregon, and Miles O'Brien has succumbed to a neurological disorder and is now in a psychiatric facility. With the help of Molly O'Brien, now a Starfleet operative, Sisko gains access to the Orb of Time and time travels to 2375, in order to end the Dominion War before it even begins. Future Sisko interacts with his past self and arms DS9 and the Defiant with future weapons. Going on the offensive the Defiant makes it's way to the Founders homeworld and after threatening the Dominion leaders with destruction successfully negotiates a treaty and cease-fire. The Defiant returns to the Alpha Quadrant.
     
  7. FederationHistorian

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    TNG: Darmok
    Give it to TOS


    Different approaches are taken to a first contact with a species they have trouble understanding, with Uhura on the surface and Kirk in command on the Enterprise.

    TNG: All Good Things…
    Give it to ENT


    Archer is retired and living in upstate New York. Sato is an accomplished chef and swings by to see Archer. Phlox is a dean at an Earth university. Mayweather captains his own Daedalus class starship, which is lost in a battle with the Andorians - who have recently annexed Vulcan - as the Federation and Andoria are at war with each other. Reed, who has joined the Andorian Imperial Guard, and Trip, who is now an admiral and commanding the NX-refit Enterprise, have grown apart because T’Pol kicked the bucket. Archer starts shifting into three different time periods (the other being during Broken Bow and during the Federation Founding Ceromony) due to an anti-time anomaly as a test by Q.

    ENT: Twilight
    Give it to DIS


    Set 15 years later in an alternate timeline where the Klingons won the Federation-Klingon War of 2256-57, Earth and various colonies have been destroyed. Burnham is dealing with space Alzheimer’s and is being cared for by Saru and Dr. Culber on Kaminar. Sarek is shown to be indifferent to the ongoing conflict and wants Burnham to return to Vulcan. Stamets is given command of the USS Discovery, which gets destroyed. Tilly is given command of her own ship, which loses a nacelle during the battle. And the rest of the supporting cast of Discovery are only featured in the episode lying on the floor of the bridge after being KIA.

    TNG: Where No One Has Gone Before
    Give it to DIS


    Discovery is thrown to the edge of the galaxy and rely on the Traveller to get home.

    ENT: Judgement
    Give it to DIS


    Burnham is tried in a Klingon court and sent away to Rura Penthe.

    DIS: Will You Take My Hand
    Give it to ENT


    Archer has to stop mirror Sato from destroying the Klingon homeworld in the prime universe, while mirror Sato – aware as to what the future holds in the prime universe - thinks that destroying the Klingon homeworld will benefit Starfleet.

    VOY: Basics
    Give it to ENT


    The crew of Enterprise is stranded on a planet and left to fend for themselves when pirates take over the ship. Phlox and a random crewmember are the only ones that remain onboard.

    TNG: Conundrum
    Give it to ENT


    The crew of Enterprise have their memories wiped and are under the impression that Starfleet is at war with an technologically advanced culture - the Vissians.

    DS9: Rules of Engagement
    Give it to TNG


    Same plot but with the TNG crew, and the Ent-D in place of the Defiant

    TNG: Cause and Effect
    Give it to DS9


    DS9 is destroyed over and over again by a late 23rd century space station that appears after a sudden temporal rift that strikes the station’s reactor core.
     
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  8. Farscape One

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    I like your idea of ENT getting "Conundrum".

    Since the Enterprise is far less advanced than the Vissians, the stakes are more real.
     
  9. somebuddyX

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    Khan 2.0 did this post a few years back about Beyond replacing The Final Frontier in 1989, with the TOS cast and Sean Connery as Krall. I've been a bit obsessed with it and even thought about making some images of it but couldn't work out how to make Scotty's film costume with the vest, in Poser.
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    VOY: Flashback
    Give to DIS


    A nebula causes a repressed memory of Detmer’s - back on the USS Shenzhou a year prior to the Battle of the Binary Stars during an encounter with the Sheliak Corporate - to resurface. Owosekun, and for some reason Burnham, help her get through it.

    DS9: Visionary
    Give it to DIS


    Rhys, Bryce, Nilsson and Linus move back and forth through time and witness the destruction of Federation HQ. They find out that Burnham's witnessed HQ's destruction first.

    VOY: Relativity
    Give it to ENT


    Daniels has to prevent a rogue Federation officer from his future from destroying the NX-01 at launch and scuttling the Warp Five program for good.

    DIS: That Hope Is You, pts 1 & 2
    Give it to DS9


    DS9 investigates a former 23rd century-era Federation colony world that’s ravaged by the Orion Syndicate for the past century. The Orions retaliate by finding a way to shut off life support on DS9 and subsequently attacking the station.

    TAS: The Time Trap
    Give it to LD


    The Cerritos gets lost in the Delta Triangle, meet a bunch of new species, and see a bunch of ships they’ve never heard of before.

    ENT: These Are The Voyages…
    Give it to PIC


    Picard runs the historical programs of the NX era for the first time and realizes that the programs are wildly inaccurate from the history books. He then has them deleted from the database, lectures the La Sirena crew about them and has a chat with Riker and Troi about the program over pizza. Facepalms and double facepalms ensue.

    TNG: The Defector
    Give it to PIC


    Picard and the La Sirena crew investigates an abandoned Romulan archeological site on Nelvana III, and encounters a Tal Shiar agent - the son of Tomalak - claiming to have defected from the Romulan Free State.
     
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  11. publiusr

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    Give it to Discovery…so we can see that solid Dyson Sphere with the newest FX
     
  12. Phoenix219

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    Would make more sense for pattern degration and cement Scotty as a miracle worker for surviving 1000 years, to boot. And make more sense to his being out of touch with technology. Imagine him finding out about programable matter and transformer ships and spore drives?
     
  13. suarezguy

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    Why would this Domion be so much less aggressive, take much longer before trying to outright conquer the Alpha Quadrant?
     
  14. Elias Vaughn

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    Badda-Bing Badda-Bang (DS9)
    Give it to: TNG

    Moriarty finds a way to contact the Enterprise crew for help from inside his portable holodeck thingy and enlist their help and I get the joy of seeing a casino heist masterminded by Riker and Picard.
     
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  15. Oddish

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    Before starting his new assignment as ops officer on a Federation garbage scow, since after seven years as an ensign his career is irretrievably ruined. If we're going to crap on Harry, let's go big. More on him later, though...

    A pocket calculator. And he gives birth to a couple of cute slide rules.

    Too similar to "Visionary". And no poker scene.

    Anything to eliminate that abomination from "Enterprise". They could still slip Jonathan Frakes in, just stick him into another episode as Riker's great great grandfather.

    While I liked it as a DS9 episode, I agree that it would have been cool here too. Or on Voyager, for that matter. Maybe every Trek should do a crime caper show...

    Here's a thought... give "Favorite Son" to DS9. Because they're not scared of shaking things up and letting dust gather on the Reset Button, Harry actually IS an alien, and we spend the next four seasons watching him deal with an identity crisis, discover his new abilities, make peace with his alien-ness when said new abilities help him paste the Jem'Hadar, suffer assorted indignities, be a hero, fall in love a few times, marry the last person he falls for in a Bajoran ceremony preduded over by the Emissary, and give that lonely little gold pip on his collar a friend or two. Because as Bob Ross reminds us, everybody needs a friend.
     
  16. somebuddyX

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    The honest answer is that in the alternate universe the writers never had the Dominion be as aggressive and invade the Alpha Quadrant. It's basically what-if DS9 was on UPN, with no serialised storytelling, whereas Voyager is in syndication and does whatever it wants. In-universe, I guess you could say the Dominion is biding it's time and it simply takes longer. The Borg never did a full scale invasion of Alpha Quadrant either.