News RUMOR: Whittaker potentially leaving

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  1. Asbo Zaprudder

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    Boooooo!

    How dare they waste Sid like that!
     
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    Sid was badly underused in Game of Thrones as well - not that more Sid would have prevented that series ending as a almighty clusterfuck.
     
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    They cast a really good actor, irrelevant of ethnicity or gender. If they can do that again, I'm ok with that.
     
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    I agree with all that.
     
  6. Gingerbread Demon

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    Never watched it but am very curious why people feel that way about the ending, what happened that upset people?

    Also people forgetting Jo Martin is funny to me because she would have made a great Doctor and not afraid to use a gun.
     
  7. Asbo Zaprudder

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    The writing became really bad. I won't go into any more detail but once the show runners went past what GRRM had committed to print, they didn't have a clue how to structure the story cohesively and consistently. It was an utter mess. In fact it was so bad I never want to watch any of it ever again.
     
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  8. Gingerbread Demon

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    OK that sounds quite dire...... I'll have to find youtubes of the ending which I have avoided looking at because of what people have said.
     
  9. The Nth Doctor

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    I had no issues with how Game of Thrones ended (although I agree they also wasted Sid!).

    But what do I know? I had no issues with how LOST ended either.

    Just don't talk to me about how Battlestar Galactica ended! Ugggggghhhhhh....
     
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    You know the BSG ending is one that I really did not like.
    It's Fiction people so why didn't they do something bold or different with the ending?

    I would have preferred they found their Earth and lived with the natives and taught them basic stuff and had kept some of their technology instead of going native. Also it could have opened up potential for more stories with friendly cylons and such. The way it ended just sucked.
     
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    How exactly can you judge the ending without any context?
     
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    The nihilist in me wanted the show to end with that long panning shot of the whole cast at the barren Earth in the midseason finale. :lol:
     
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    The writing of Game of Thrones' final season and ending wasn't shit because the creators didn't have novels to draw from; it was just shit.

    Also contributing to the backlash against the ending was the fact that the creators spent 7 seasons lying through their teeth about one of the series' most popular characters.
     
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    Oh actually hell that would have been good. I like that.

    @The Return of Zombie Cheerleader I know what you mean. I will have a look later on. Just a lot of people I know hated it so I trust their opinions and never bothered to check it out for myself.
     
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    I hated it, but I've read the books and watched the show. So I knew the characters, the plot lines and the setting. I can't see coming in on the final act of a play or the last chapter of a book and saying it sucked. Makes no sense.
     
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    Well not to say that, but just to see what happens.
     
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    But hadn't GRRM told them what was going to happen and given them the structure of the novels? All the narrative choices were GRRM's surely? Won't argue they didn't rush it because they did but I never got the impression they were heading anywhere GRRM didn't want them to go.

    I was never the biggest fan of BSG and right from the start I realised there were only two possible endings (well three if they went down the BSG1980 route) They found earth and it was the distant past and they became our ancestors, or they found earth and it was the future.

    That's how it should have ended.

    Or they spent 7 years showing us exactly who the mother of dragons really was. Did they rush her final tip over the edge, probably, was that where she was always headed? Absolutely.
     
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    GRRM has apparently stated that he will go in a different direction. If they did use his outline, the show apparently exposed its weaknesses.
    There are other possible endings but none are particularly satisfying or entertaining ones. But, hey, who says life has to have meaning or be satisfying? That's unrealistic. I thought the ending made sense as I had predicted it during season one. It's the eternal return of Nietzsche, J M Barrie, and Ecclesiastes 1:9-18.
    God has laid a miserable fate upon us. There you go. Suck it up, my creation.
    Yes! For example, Daenerys Targaryen crucified 163 Great Masters of Meereen to prove a point. She wasn't averse to violence to get her way. The problem was I don't think the directors conveyed to Emilia Clarke that she needed to portray an abused woman who had a simmering, underlying ruthlessness and sense of entitlement. I don't think Daenerys's behaviour was the result of her experiences; I think it was in her genes - it was nature, not nurture all along.

    What we discussing again?

    Any thoughts on how many of the audience for JW's final season are going to have to turn on the subtitles for John Bishop? My ear is attuned to the Scouse accent thankfully.
     
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    Undoubtedly. It's their way.
     
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    Which is pretty much what the Timeless Child sets up, IMO. They just need the Quantum Leap bar to sign off on it.
     
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