News Foundation Adaptation Series Officially Ordered by Apple

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  1. Reverend

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    Also, Dune has been filmed twice already...not very well, but filmed none-the-less.

    And yeah, the problems with Foundation aren't technical (it could be done with 'Forbidden Planet' level VFX) it's purely about how dry, expansive and devoid of character and personality it is. Trying to tackle it anything close to word-for-word would be like making "Literally All of Human History From Hunter Gatherers To The Industrial Revolution in detail: The Movie"
     
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  2. Skipper

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    What! At least a miniseries. :rofl:
     
  3. Mach5

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    You're way oversimplifying it. Over 1100 pages of prose needed to be distilled to its core essentials while retaining complex characterisations and world-building. Peter Jackson's achievement is nothing short of monumental. Not to mention, as faithful to the source material as can be, without regurgitating Tolkien's writing.

    I'd also note Game of Thrones. An almost superb adaptation of what so many book fans considered unadaptable... Until it wasn't any more.

    David Lynch movie is dogshit. Miniseries is... Better written, but produced dismally.
     
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    Hey! I loved the Lynch movie as a kid. Possibly because I've never read the books...
     
  5. Reverend

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    Me too, and I still have a lot of affection for it. But that doesn't make it good.
     
  6. Mach5

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    It has an intriguing aesthetic and good music, but otherwise, it's a horrible adaptation that completely misses the point.
     
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    It had its own feel..it’s own worldbuilding. It is what Jupiter Ascending and VALERIAN couldn’t capture, but Chronicles of Riddick did…a sweeping expanse…a feel. I even liked the force shield look…dense…tougher than trek fields in a way.

    Where Lynch’s effort was Lawrence of Arabia…the TV series…and this latest effort are more matter of fact…like Restrapo?
    Religion mixed with a vital resource fought over by foreign powers trying to get in good with Bedouins?

    That was Gulf Wars I and II
    No thank you. I’ll take Lynch’s magic…where you hardly even see the damn spice.
     
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    I've seen some trailers, also read Isaac Asimov's first 2 books.
    I'm curious about the series....
    So Jared Harris will play Hari Seldon.... sounds interesting.
    I like him, seen him in the Chernobyl miniseries, first season from The Terror and in The Expanse.
    Hopefully they will keep shooting the series and something great will come out.

    I also started to watch at some point Raised by Wolves, cool sci-fi, it started well, but the end of the first season was a bit disappointing. Kinda turned from sci-fi into fantasy :thumbdown:
    Ridley Scott was one of the executive producers.
     
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    Yeah, Jared Harris is a great actor, and son of Richard Harris. He's shown to have a great acting range and I think he's a great choice to play Hari Seldon. I think his first big break was with Mad Men.

    Agree with Raised by Wolves. I loved its visual design echoing back to golden-age of sci-fi, but the story was everywhere. Didn't really know what it wanted to be, and I'm likely not coming back to it if a second season is produced.
     
  11. oldtrekkie

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    I can't wait to watch episode one.
     
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    I'm looking forward to this series but I haven't really been following the news. Did I read correctly that the first two episodes will be available on Friday? While I haven't read the books, I'm really hoping this show is like the Expanse. I need more 90s era quality sci fi Shows in my life and the reason I gravitated to the Expanse was it had the feeling of shows like Babylon 5 or DS9. Hopefully Foundation gives me that same craving.
     
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    It's Foundation Week! At last. Another great "unfilmable" classic sci-fi book comes to visual media.
     
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    I have a question.

    In the original trilogy there is nothing to suggest the Emperor is a series of clones - in fact way it is presented it seems like just a regular dynastic family, with various other noble houses vying for control on occasion. Cloning tech isn't even mentioned.

    I haven't read the the prequels since I was 13 or so. Is he a clone in them, or was that added purely by this adaptation?
     
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    To my recollection, it was added purely by this adaptation. That said, it lets them keep an actor across the hundreds of years the story spans, so it seems a reasonable addition.
     
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    I'm not rejecting it, I was just curious.

    Although it does fuck with the Mule. His inability to found a dynasty is the reason why is empire was destined to be ephemeral. But if he can clone himself :shrug:
     
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    In the original books medical science was at 1940's level ... I mean, Seldon was on a wheelchair! And they made clear that the human life span was comparable to today one.
     
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    Which is something I don't really get seeing as what people were seeing was a hologram of Seldon activated at certain times via his predictions. They could use the hologram idea and still keep using the same actor. That's what confuses me. The only reason I could think of for going that way would be if they plan on doing two-way interaction with him.
     
  19. 1987SpaceGuy

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    Yes, it's the first 3 2 episodes that air/release this week, followed by one a week every Friday for a total of 10 episodes.
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    Also of interest around here:
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  20. oldtrekkie

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    True, cloning is not even mentioned once in the old trilogy or in the prequels or the sequels