Spoilers Fear the Walking Dead - Season 6

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  1. TREK_GOD_1

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    Not many choices. Either the nuke's warhead never detonates / harmlessly crashes into a lake, etc., or it means the heroes make a desperate attempt to leave that region of the country, setting the stage for the group to run into the next Big Bad, or finally meet the black outfit/helicopter group Althea left to find a few episodes ago, and they transport the heroes to greener pastures.

    That, or the heroes end up with radiation sickness, which is a major sub-plot leading to end of the series as one character after another dies off.
     
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    We shall see.... hopefully they didn't write themselves into a corner...but it seems like the missile is taking an awful long time to detonate.

    Wondering when Fear will connect with World and TWD and Rick movies with the CRM storyline.
     
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    I'd assume a nuking would be noticed by the circle group...
     
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    Yeah, Lizzie and Lydia both had pretty clear damage that lead to their issues, but there doesn't seem to be that for Dakota, this just seems to be the way she is.
    Lydia especially was pretty clearly a decent person who just ended up being put into a bad situation by her unstable mother.

    Oh, OK. I don't remember ever hearing anyone call her that before this episode, and her voice wasn't clear enough through the radio to recognize it.
    Did we see Al in this one? I don't remember seeing her.
     
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    Now the survivors are going to have to deal with self aware apes. Are we seeing the beginning of a Planet of Apes vs zombies show I didn't know I always wanted until I started typing this.
     
  6. TREK_GOD_1

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    Season 6 Finale / Episode 16 - "The Beginning"


    The season finale is divided into titled chapters focusing on six sets of characters. As each chapter starts, to give viewers a sense where each chapter falls on the timeline since the finale of the E15, a radioed "final" message from Morgan is heard.

    1. Promise me you'll find someone.

    Rachel: with baby Morgan and their dog Rufus are stranded three miles from a coastal entrance, with a blown tire. Rachel uses her walkie to call for help, but hears Morgan's message referring to an "end." Rachel--despite seeing the missile launch in the distance ahead of her--is determined to survive, but as she continues to pull on the tire, the jack slips, dropping the edge of the tire on her calf, ripping it open, breaking her now protruding fibula. In total agony, Rachel uses a stick to act as a splint, while she hobbles on a makeshift cane. Bleeding and knowing she cannot travel far or survive the injury, the emotionally broken woman makes a decision. She tells baby Morgan "this is the end for me...not you", takes a rope, ties one end to Rufus, the other to her waist, and tells the dog "You're good at finding people. Promise me you'll find someone...please?" She keeps baby Morgan strapped to her back in a knapsack, takes her head scarf and ties it around her jawline, with the largest end stuffed in her mouth...

    The woman stabs herself in the stomach and in moments, she dies...

    2. ¡Dame el arma! / 7. I know how to survive.

    Luciana / Sarah / Charlie / Rabbi Kessner / Wes / Daniel / Rollie / Riley:
    In the SWAT van, Daniel hears Morgan's message, and another--a woman's voice (he recognizes, but cannot readily identify - SEE NOTES) who gives him coordinates for a rendezvous point. A truck--carrying Wes, Rollie and a captive Riley speed up, just as Daniel notifies the others about the message. They wonder if he really heard anything, considering his recent mental issues, and even he cannot be sure...yet he is. Rollie claims to have coerced Riley into divulging the location of the resort/bunker where Alicia is being held, and suggests they can ride out the warheads' effects. Daniel does not trust a smug Riley at all, but the others agree to go to the bunker.

    As they travel, Daniel questions Riley, asking why would he reveal the bunker so close to the end, when his intention was to die for the cause. At that moment, the van's brakes give out, and while Sarah and Kessner perform a quickie repair job, the others kill approaching walkers. Riley explains that he knows Daniel and the others believe Teddy's group are insane, but parrots that "the end is the beginning" and that they'll "rise like the Phoenix". With the brakes repaired, Rollie prepares to climb into the driver's seat, but also uses the same "Phoenix" expression to the letter. Alarmed, Daniel asks a confused Luciana for her gun (in Spanish), and shoots Rollie dead, explaining he had to have been the mole who informed Teddy's group that they were headed for the sub (and conveniently knew about the bunker). Before he can continue, Riley was rushing toward Daniel, but is shot in the back by Charlie. Mortally wounded, Riley still mocks the group's efforts to survive, saying it was Daniel's mental breakdown which caused dissension at the dam site, leading Rollie to seek another life and become that mole. Desperate, the others agree to follow the coordinates....

    Arriving at the location, but finding empty fields, Riley--clearly dying--again mocks the heroes, saying he told them there was no escape. Angrily, Daniel grabs Riley and hurls him to the pavement, where the man dies. At that moment, Charlie hears a CRM helicopter approaching. With everyone running to the helicopter, Wes takes out a can of spray paint and writes something on the pavement. The pilot holds up a radio, where Althea's voice tells them not to ask any questions. Rabbi Kessner--who doubted having any faith at all when introduced, takes off his yarmulke, kisses it, then places it back on his head. Luciana--who believed in Daniel when others doubted him, reminds him of her faith in the man.

    We see what Wes was spray-painting: "THIS ISN'T THE END", with part of the message painted across Riley's back. Wes is the last to board the helicopter and as it takes to the sky...

    3. Enjoy the view, asshole.

    Dwight and Sherry: the couple--on horseback--race to find shelter, and come across an empty house. Sherry just hopes they might come across some beer and pretzels as it was what they promised to consume if they reunited. Entering the house, Sherry sees a photo of a husband, wife and their newborn, which makes her think about a life she could have enjoyed with Dwight; although she believes their cross-country reunion was no coincidence--that it meant something, she laments how much time she wasted trying to fight the bad guys who "always win", but Dwight assures her that fr everything she had to do, she should not feel sorry about any of it. Suddenly, the man (Kevin Larson), woman (Kim Larson) and daughter (Briga, now an older child) from the photo get the jump on Dwight and Sherry. The family thought Dwight and Sherry were with two armed men who forced the family to give them access to their storm cellar, men who were spouting off about "the end is the beginning". Without hesitation, Dwight & Sherry volunteer to get rid of them.

    With a rope tied the horse and the other to the door handle of the cellar, Dwight smacks the horse's rear, causing the animal to take off, the strength and speed of the horse tearing the doors off. In an instant, two men run out of the shelter with rifles at the ready, but Dwight & Sherry--waiting to ambush them--kill one, and wound the other in his leg. The wounded man screams at Dwight to just kill him, but "D" decides to do to the man what he and Teddy's group are doing to everyone else: allowing him to live to experience the coming nuclear blast. To make sure the man does not escape, Sherry shoots his other leg, telling the man, "Enjoy the view, asshole." As the warheads separate, Dwight & Sherry join the Larsons in the storm cellar...


    4. You have nothing to be sorry about.

    Teddy / Dakota / June / J.D., Sr.:
    Teddy and Dakota drive to the top of a hill overlooking the valley, intending to have a front-row seat to nuclear devastation. Dakota repeatedly seeks confirmation that she was "fine" as is, with Teddy telling her that he did see commonality between the two, and that none of his followers ever really understood his mission (SEE NOTES). At that moment, J.D. arrives, holding Teddy and Dakota at gunpoint, with J.D. telling Dakota that he forgives her for killing John. To prove that, he lowers his gun to the ground, giving Teddy the chance to draw his gun, only for the weapon to be shot from his hand by June, who also forgives Dakota for murdering John. Teddy interjects, still trying to accuse others of not accepting her for who she is, while he does, leading a crying Dakota to scream a mix of accusation and denial at June & J.D.

    Dorie Sr. looks to the ground and notices a handle to a metal door, which leads to an underground shelter. Calling Teddy out on not being for "the end," Dakota demands to know what the purpose the shelter served, and if he ever meant any of the things he said to her. Teddy stammers with his answers, but J.D. provides an answer: Teddy only saved Dakota because he needs a second person to accompany him back to the sub to turn the other key to the missile launcher. Outraged, Dakota is more confused than ever, save for her incessant argument about being who she is. Suddenly, they see the warheads separate, and begin to fall to earth.

    The sobbing Dakota aims her gun at June and J.D., telling them that they will stay above ground too. J.D. gets Dakota's attention, allowing June to shoot the gun from the teen's hand. June and J.D. waste no time climbing into the underground shelter, but Dakota--much to J.D.'s visible regret--refuses to follow saying if she has to die, she wants to see it. Dakota retrieves her gun, aiming it at Teddy. She demands to know if he ever "gave a shit" about her, or did he only need her to "turn that key." Not giving a straight answer (only uttering the nickname he gave her as if he was readying another excuse), Dakota shoots him in the chest, and says, "that's what I thought!" then finishes the psychopath with a bullet to the head. With one parting comment, she adds--

    "You said I should never change. Well, I'm not. Now, you never get to see your ending."

    5. Which man are you?

    Strand: The injured Strand is alone, and rides his horse to what appears to be an abandoned, unfinished office building, with a herd of walkers coming after him. As he enters the building, walkers emerge from various rooms, and the man manages to fight them off until he reaches a floor that had been used as a campsite--some of its occupants still there as corpses--some with head wounds.

    He hears music playing a few floors above him, and upon reaching the source, discovers the entire floor furnished and filled with apparently valuable art (the Alamo flag, fine art, Western Expansion-era rifles, music, etc.), and a working record player. A man sneaks up behind him, aiming a rifle at his back; disarming Strand, the man acknowledged that he witnessed the missile launch, and is resigned to his fate. He reveals that he is Howard, once a teacher at UT, and after the world fell, to preserve human history, he helped himself to the university's books, art and other cultural artifacts, storing them in his dwelling. When Strand recalls how he was on the sub trying to stop the launch, he notes that he was with another man, and between the two, one was willing to die to stop the launch, while the other was there to stop it--if he could gain all of the glory from doing it. When the teacher asks which man he was, Strand lies, telling him he was the one willing to die, and that his name is...Morgan Jones.

    Strand notices Howard is wearing a religious medallion similar to the one he gave Alicia, or as he refers to her, "A dear friend." He asks if the man is religious, to which the man replies, no, but his wife (assumed to be dead) who gave it to him for protection, was. Soon, the men hear the warheads separate....

    6. I can hear her.

    Morgan and Grace:
    As the missile streaks upward, Grace--now alone atop the submarine--becomes frustrated, and enters the sub, taking a gun from the body of a walker, then makes her way to the missile control room. There, Morgan furiously makes random keystrokes on one of the launch control boards, but is getting nowhere. Grace indicates that in the event they survived the blast, the fallout and radiation poisoning would be on a level none of them want to live through, as it will be far worse than Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Chernobyl. She recalls watching that happen to someone at the plant, but does not want to see that happen to someone else she loves, adding that being honest with her feelings until its too late has always been a problem for her. Morgan finally admits he loves her too, and after sharing a kiss, she sets her pistol on the board, Morgan comprehending what that means. Both express regrets--about losing Athena, Morgan feeling that with Grace, he wanted to be a husband and father again. Grace says they can be all of those things...just not in this world.

    Hearing the sound of the warheads separating, Grace says they do not have much time left. Placing their foreheads together, Morgan aims the gun at the back of his head with the intention of the bullet ripping through both. Just as Morgan is pulling the trigger, Grace believes she's hearing Athena crying; Morgan hears crying too, and learn its coming from the external comm system. Climbing out of the sub, Morgan is heartbroken to see the reanimated Rachel (with the crying baby Morgan safely strapped to her back) being pulled--as she intended--by Rufus. Grace detaches the dog from Rachel, as Morgan puts her down, and pulls baby Morgan to safety. Morgan is chuckling with joy, telling Grace that baby Morgan feels like a gift from Athena. The expression on Grace's face is one of uncertainty....

    7. I know how to survive.

    The warhead strikes:


    Strand and Howard walk to a window and see one of the warheads fall in the distant city-scape...

    Dakota stands at the railing of the hill and closes her eyes, as warhead detonates in close proximity to the hill. A blinding, thunderous flash follows and the teen is consumed in the flash, but as the light fades, all that is left is her partially charred and burning corpse still standing there...

    In the shelter, the force of the blast sends June and J.D. toppling across the space...

    At the Larson house, the blast sweeps over the home, while it rocks the storm cellar, sending dust and debris on top of Dwight, Sherry and the Larsons, but the bast effect subsides, as all survive...

    After the CRM helicopter is far in the distance, a reanimated Riley rises, just as the warhead's blast consumes walker-Riley and everything is the surrounding area....

    At the resort/bunker where Alicia is imprisoned, all that can be seen is her POV from the vault window as the blast rocks the resort, sending part of the ceiling and other debris to the floor. There's no indication if Alicia survived or died....

    At the sub, that dreaded flash & a mushroom cloud is witnessed by Grace and Morgan; they race to and hide under an abandoned tanker to avoid the brunt of the blast; Rufus the dog--sharp as a knife--also senses the danger and jumps into the backseat of a wrecked car for safety. Under the vehicle, the blast sends waves of sand over Morgan, Grace and the baby, but eventually, the blast dies down.

    Strand and Howard close their eyes, waiting for the inevitable, with the former teacher tightly holding the religious medallion--apparently finding his faith. Both open their eyes, seeing the mushroom cloud form in the distance, and thanks to said distance, the blast never reaches them. Seeing Strand laughing, he asks why he's so happy, and Strand says its because he's alive. "After all I've done, I'm still alive." That line frightens the teacher, leading Strand to admit he's not the man she presented himself to be: he's that "other man," the one who went to the sub seeking glory, and he's not Morgan Jones.
    Strand admits to other immoral acts, but tries to justify it by explaining he did it to survive, and "despite the critics"--as he puts it--he's still here. He continues, saying he came from nothing, and had to build and rebuild over and over again, but now, he sees an opportunity to build a future, with good bourbon, art, books and music. He sees this as the start of a new day, but the teacher is left frozen with fear....

    Morgan, Grace and baby Morgan get to their feet, surveying the area around them, and exchanging uncertain glances when another war head detonates, leaving the pair just staring at each other, possibly wondering if Morgan should have pulled that trigger....

    NOTES:

    Teddy showering Dakota with compliments--reinforcing the idea that he wanted her to be with him, then his hugs and kisses was highly suggestive off his having pedophilic interests in her, rather than just using her to complete his mission. Watching their scenes again,Teddy carries that molester stench in the manner in which he was manipulating the teenager.

    As I predicted, Althea located the CRM / Isabelle, sending them to rescue her friends. In fact, it was Althea's voice that fed Daniel the coordinates for the pick-up site. Now the question centers on the CRM, and if they will rescue the others in time, do they have the means to treat any radiation sickness, and will the CRM appear to be friends, but turn out to be as controlling / engaging in one-sided "bargaining" as TWD's Saviors?

    Then there's Alicia and the impact of the detonation...

    The survivors of the bast have earned the "right" to continue into next season, but without some medical miracle, I see a lot of tragedy coming for some of the series' most popular characters, which is a shame, after a season of reaching so many creative highs.

    While Season 10 of The Walking Dead was--by far--the best in at least three years, season 6 of Fear the Walking Dead was the series reaching the pinnacle of its Morgan-driven format / potential. Its never been better, and nearly every character had some deeper emotional investment into not only the main plots, but the lives of each other that truly serve the story, instead of things happening just because the writers and/or showrunners say it supposed to (like a few Berlanti DC series I will leave nameless).

    It is also rare to have two strong villain arcs in any series' TV season, and as abusive and sadistic Virginia was, Teddy topped that, more than justifying the Pioneers' (Virginia's group) whispered concerns of another threat / dealing with the terrorist hits at their oil field and other properties. Not a single main character did not have some opportunity (large or small) to shine as part of the developing drama, although I have pointed out that the Luciana character was neglected earlier this season, but thankfully, she was given a stronger leadership presence as the season was building toward its finale.

    I will add that this is a very unique year for TV fantasy series in that three fantasy TV series (and undoubtedly the best) were led by a black male actor (Cress Williams in Black Lightning, Anthony Mackie in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier and of course, Lennie James in this series), which is a historic achievement no one would have seen even a decade ago, though I doubt it will become any sort of standard, since Black Lightning was cancelled, and from reports, Mackie and Company will leave TV to tell their next story in Captain America 4.

    GRADE: A.
     
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    Pretty good ending to the season, with the group split up rushing to find a way to survive the impending detonation of the nuclear warheads. Most everyone finds shelter to survive or in Strand's case is too far away from the explosions to be killed, and in the case of Daniel and his group, rescued by a CRM helicopter. Dakota realizes at the last minute Teddy was using her for his own agenda, so she kills him and is herself killed in the nuclear blast, which damn, that was an impressive and disturbing sight seeing her get completely flash-fried before getting incinerated.

    I am starting to get rather tired of all the flip-flopping they keep doing with Strand. One episode he's desperately trying to reform and seek redemption, they next he's as ruthless as ever tossing anyone and everyone under the bus in the name of self-preservation, then he reveals it's all part of some masterplan, then he's potentially becoming the next villain, then he's misunderstood, then the cycle resets. Really, they should just choose one direction for him to go in and commit to it. Based on how this finale ended, as well as comments Colman Domingo made on Talking Dead, it seems as though ruthless cutthroat Strand is who we're stuck with now. Fine, let's stick with that and not walk back on that with him seeking redemption and trying to show he's still a decent man in the early episodes of season 7.

    And I get it made for a nice poetic moment, but Wes taking time to spray paint while the helicopter was stuck waiting for him with a nuclear warhead literally raining down was plain idiotic.

    Otherwise, a great episode which laid the groundwork for a very interesting new direction for the show to take in the seventh season.
     
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    About Dakota: I was satisfied that there was no attempt to rinse+repeat Charlie's redemption arc with her (meaning Charlie murdered Nick, but was eventually forgiven and accepted by Alicia). She realized--and argued that she should not change and bitterly fought against anyone she believed was trying to change her. She was a total nihilist and would not function normally or serve any purpose in the world. The only reason she survived as long as she did was living under Virginia's watch.

    Regarding Teddy, I've already noted his disturbing interest in Dakota, but his was a fitting end, that the last person he manipulated had enough and as Dakota put it in so many words--she robbed him of seeing a "beginning" he did not grant to anyone else.

    I used to defend Strand from detractors early on (particularly when Daniel was always accusing him of anything under the sun), but I had hoped the character would go through some event which made him reject his old ways as a poison of a kind, but as you point out, he always returns to his self-serving ways, and finally laid it out to the former teacher. He considers Alicia a "dear friend," yet he's yet to offer anything to her that would warrant his assumption about their friendship. I would hope that will finally come to a head in season 7, no matter how it turns out.


    The biggest question is how close the suriviors were to the effect of the detonation and if this will be--in a Teddy-esque ironic inverse--"the beginning of their end" with a season of suffering from radiation poisoning...or will the CRM group have treatments for that. No matter the case, the one thing I do not want to see is Morgan robbed of a peaceful life, which has been his mission since his return cameo in the opening of TWD's 5th season. Now that Morgan and Grace have declared their love for each other, they--like Sherry ad Dwight--deserve to come out of the other end as stable couples not ripped apart by tragedy.
     
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    Well looks like the nuke got people's attention - ratings up 19.84% over the previous one. Most watched episode since 5/16, and second highest since 4/25. Also, this show is watched by more people than Superman and Lois somehow... A spinoff of a comic-book adaptation zombie show on cable is beating a Superman show on a broadcast network. Insanity.
     
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    I missed something. How did Daniel know who the spy was again?
     
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    My final thought on this season: The last few seasons of this show are basically Z Nation meets Walking Dead. It's fun... but a much lower form of entertainment than the parent show.
     
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    Riley used the "rising like a Phoenix" expression to Daniel when explaining what would happen to society after the missile strikes, and only a few minutes later, Rollie used a variation of the expression, which is so uncommon that both using it could not be a coincidence. That, and it was Rollie (along with Wes) who "captured" Riley outside of the sub and suddenly, Riley disclosed the location of the resort where Alicia was imprisoned (and presumably, the rest of Teddy's group were sheltering...and waiting).
     
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    I wouldn't say Z Nation --- because they have a lot more fun on that show. The only comparison would be that I like the core characters of both... The additon of Morgan and John Dorie for sure helped give us characters we can root for, where Fear, i didn't really care for Madison and her family.

    I too am not as invested in the characters as in the original TWD, but definitely more so than the first 3 seasons of Fear.

    I am not sure how they will resolve this nuclear stuff.... because the resulting radiation will probably kill most of the characters by the time time we get to World of Walking Dead / TWD / Rck movies timeline, right?

    I REALLY think they wasted Grace in this last plotline. She is a NUCLEAR ENGINEER! Surely she could have figured out something, right?

    I don't want Strand to go, but it would have been great if his push of Morgan would have been to do a TWOK Spock and sacrifice himself to stop the missile. Or could something have been done where te war heads don't actually cause a nuclear explosion but DO crash to the ground?
     
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    That depends on the CRM group, their distance from the heart of the fallout area and what kind of treatment facilities they have. If they're just a semi-militaristic group with no state-of-the-art medical resources, then yeah, the next season could be the worst yet in terms of character deaths. But that would only be "worth it" if the series were coming to its end. I would not want to see one or three survivors simply piggyback on another group to keep telling stories that cannot possibly be bigger than Teddy's.

    What could she do? Once the missiles were launched, its out of the hands of everyone. She served her purpose by informing Morgan what they might face (radiation sickness) if they were to stay in the area.

    My biggest hope is that Grace, Morgan and baby Morgan survive. Morgan has been one of the most tortured characters in the WD franchise since TWD's pilot and "Clear", and as he revealed to Grace, he hoped he could be a husband and father again. They should be wrapped by as much plot armor as possible, just to get this trio to the series finale.

    Strand is the mystery of the series going forward; now that the others know about his betrayal, who would ever want to see him again without trying to kill him? I suppose its fitting that the person he cared about most--Alicia--does not know what he did, so he would still have that relationship to lean on...but he did not know the location of the resort--the others do, so in the event Alicia survived, i'm sure a helicopter is going to rescue her, and at that moment, she will learn what would amount to the final nail in the coffin of her friendship with Strand.
     
  15. The Wormhole

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    The CRM seem to be all over the US/ Between the three shows we know they have a confirmed presence in Virginia, Texas, Nevada and New York. Walking Dead also implies a presence in New Jersey and the Rick movies are supposed to take place in Pennsylvania making it clear they have a presence there as well.

    Mind you, there are some serious questions about how they tie in with this season's storyline on Fear. There's no way they never noticed a beached submarine with nuclear missiles on board, so how is it they never did anything about it? In fact, it seems likely they must have sent someone to check it out, and that could explain the walker of one of their soldiers Teddy had at his compound. But that soldier presumably had a team with her, and while I guess it's reasonable to assume Teddy/his people killed the rest of the team to, didn't the rest of the CRM get a little curious when the team they sent to secure a nuclear submarine missed their check-in? They sent no one else to look into it?
     
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    When in the timeline does 'Fear' take place in relation to its parent show and 'The World Beyond'?

    If its a few years before, then the CRM might not yet have the resources to send multiple teams to look for another missing team. They might chalk it up to the group being eaten by walkers or ambushed by another group of survivors.
     
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    Did you watch The World Beyond? I didn't, but I was under the impression that I big part of the show focused on the CRM.

    I watched the finale earlier this week and I liked it a lot. I thought the whole set up, with it basically being a series of shorts showing everyone dealing with the fact that they nukes were about to fall, was pretty cool.
    With that monologue at the end, it feels like they could be setting up Strand to be the new big bad.
    The group getting picked up by the CRM was a surprise, and it also explained where Al's been the last couple episodes.
    I hope they aren't going to kill off Morgan and Grace, I really like them, and I'd hate to lose them so soon after losing Dorie Jr.
     
  18. The Wormhole

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    As of the season 6 finale, Fear should be roughly around the same timeframe as Rick's departure on Walking Dead, so six or seven years prior to World Beyond.
    I would still think a team checking out a submarine with nuclear missiles on board would be a high priority to check up on if they went silent. Presumably, the CRM sent one of its best teams to check the location out, and having them go silent would be a cause of great concern.
     
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    The CRM not doing something to secure the submarine is a big WTF for me. Their cross country presences seems to run contrary to the comics as well--just read the final story arc recently which has a really satisfying conclusion in my opinion.

    As for the timeline, it was implied that Morgan's journey to the West took several years when he switched shows. In Fear there were several places where significant timeline jumps could have happened so I would think the two main shows are aligned right now.

    I really hope that Fear does not downplay the nuclear problem next season. Several characters must have had a dosing of radiation during the blasts, and I even laughed when Strand went on about how he survived--without knowing how the nuclear fallout is going to play out. We will see.

    Like others I have really grown to enjoy this series over the past few years. Where TWD has become less entertaining, Fear has really stepped up.
     
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    Yeah, it will be interesting to see how they handle the aftermath of the bombs going off. Realistically a good chunk of the cast was probably exposed to some pretty serious radiation, but I can't see them taking out that much of the cast unless they're ending the show.