Sony Spider-Verse discussion thread

Needs more Spidey

 

I’m only watching it on my phone but was that peter on the cover of the newspaper?

 

I always think of 90's "extreme" when I think of Venom which seems to be well represented in that trailer.

 

As I recall, Venom was approached more as a dark, grim, violent character, not a domesticated, jokey mascot as the symbiote came off in the trailer. I know they went for a "Lethal Protector" angle where he was an antihero as long as Spider-Man wasn't around, but I don't have the sense the character was played for laughs.

 

I miss Woody's wig from the first movie.

 

Looked pretty good to me.

 

I'm kinda meh on the trailer. I thought the first movie was just ok and this looks like more of the same.
Why does Venom seem to be doing a different accent now?

 

IGN is claiming that Venom 2 director Andy Serkis had said the movie is not in the MCU, but that's obviously wrong if you read the actual quote: "We're treating this very much as it's his own world... There are nods and little moments [like the shot of the newspaper the Daily Bugle], of course, but on the whole he's unaware. They are unaware, at this point, of other characters like Spider-Man. So, that's the way we've chosen to play this particular episode of the movie, but, well, we'll wait and see." That clearly doesn't mean it's in a separate universe, just that it's narratively independent and doesn't acknowledge Spider-Man directly, although future movies might.

I really wish online journalists would take the time to think about the things they quote, rather than just jumping at things that look like clickbait. The problem is that fans and reporters think of "worlds" in terms of larger abstractions like "cinematic universes," while filmmakers are more concerned with what their stories are actually about, narratively and conceptually. A movie set in, say, the world of cutthroat international finance may have no connections to a movie set in the world of ballet, but that doesn't mean they're in alternate universes.

 

There's no way Marvel are going to allow some other studio to make MCU movies unless they have creative control over it. Whatever intimations Sony makes is just an attempt to curry fan favour and build hype, and yet it's still not going to be an MCU movie.

As for the trailer...eh. I wasn't all that interested in the first movie, so it took a while for me to get around to it, and while I dont' regret watching it, I also don't regret waiting. Hardy was really the only thing it had going for it.

 

I still haven't bothered with the first one despite the cast, particularly Tom Hardy. I've never liked Venom, so that's part of it, but trailers for both films just don't look...fun. Or interesting. Meh.

 

I would have agreed with this before the big deal a few years back about Sony pulling Spider-Man out of the MCU. I think that might have given them a little leverage in that department, as evidenced by the fact that the Morbius trailer featured Michael Keaton and I'll eat my hat if he's not playing Adrian Toomes.

 

Maybe, maybe not. I still feel like as far as Marvel is concerned it's a one-way street. As in Sony may use some of the MCU's actors and their versions of character, and the usual incidental production design connections (Roxxon, WHiH, The Bugle, Starke Industires etc.) but when you flip back to the MCU proper I don't think any of that would be reciprocated. Hell, they wouldn't even do it for the ABC or Netflix shows and those were technically in-house, at least as far as Disney were concerned.

 

We see a shot of someone reading The Bugle in the trailer. But it's the The Bugle logo from the Rami movies.

 

I thought the picture on the front of that issue of the Bugle was of Cletus Kasaday (going along with the headline next to the picture).

 

Yeah, looks like Harrelson to me.

 

Aaron Taylor-Johnson is going to be Kraven the Hunter in his solo film https://www.thewrap.com/aaron-taylor-johnson-kraven-the-hunter-sony-spider-man-villain-movie/

 

Quicksilver to Kraven, huh? Kinda weird, since it's still ambiguous whether the Sony Spidey-adjacent films are meant to be in the MCU or not.

 

I was thinking that too. Especially after the Evan Peters/Wandavision thing into the bargain.

 

That is not someone I would have come to mind for role for me at all.
Of all of the Spidey adjacent Sony movies this is the one I'm the most uncertain of. Without Spider-Man, Kraven is more or less just a big game hunter, so does that mean the movie is just going to about him out hunting animals in Africa or something? I hate hunting, so I'm really hoping there's going to be more to the movie than that.

 

Given that Kraven's whole deal is that he hunts Spider-Man, what's the point of a solo Kraven movie?