History of Trek uniforms

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Ronald Held, Apr 12, 2021.

  1. Ronald Held

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  2. The Wormhole

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    They left out the monster maroons.
     
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  3. Admiral Archer

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    That's so weird! I'm hoping it was just a mistake, because I double checked and they had literally EVERY other uniform style in there. I wonder why the longest running uniform in-universe was the only one they left out? Again, that's just weird! :eek:
     
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  4. Kirby

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    I love the monster maroons! What a weird thing to leave out though, in-universe those things were around for about 80 years.
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  5. Richard S. Ta

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    Why are they called monster maroons? I was literally just wondering that when I found this thread.

    ETA: Is that George Takei to the right in the still from The Cage? It looks like him but I thought he came on for the second pilot?
     
  6. Bry_Sinclair

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    That is "Where No Man Has Gone Before" when Sulu was the ship's physicist before becoming the helmsman (he's a man of many talents).

    It's also missing the "All Good Things"/"The Visitor"/"Endgame" future uniforms as well.
     
  7. Richard S. Ta

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    Duh, that's what I get for posting without coffee. Crikey, he looks so young and handsome doesn't he?

    My other question stands... why monster maroons? Do people find them monstrous?
     
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  8. at Quark's

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    Still don't get why their uniforms would change so insanely often in some eras (in-universe, I mean).
     
  9. Richard S. Ta

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    The devil makes work for idle hands. If you live in a Utopian post-scarcity society you have to give people something to do.
     
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  10. at Quark's

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    Well perhaps yes, but I said some eras. Those monster maroons were in circulation for a long time (80 years or so), and then we get decades during which they change at least twice.
     
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  11. Timo

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    Because it rhymes? Sometimes you don't need any other reason, not even in the military. See e.g. the Morotai Mutiny. :devil:

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  12. BK613

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    Even the monster maroons under went changes. At some point the turtlenecks and wool linings were axed. The pants stripes and belts went away as well. And I am pretty sure that Jack Crusher's version in TNG Family is made from a different material than Lt. Castillo's in TNG Yesterday's Enterprise.
    https://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/season-4/4x02/family-hd-318.jpg
    https://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x15/yesterdays_enterprise_hd_192.jpg
    (Also, there only seems to be one chest badge in YE; first Garrett is wearing it and then Castillo when he takes command. This guy doesn't have one as well.)
     
  13. Richard S. Ta

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    It is an example of alliteration. However 'monster' does not rhyme with 'maroon'. Unless you pronounce those words weirdly? :angel:
     
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  14. Chaos Descending

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    You should see how often the US Army and the US Navy have changed THEIR uniforms.
     
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  15. at Quark's

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    Being no US citizen, I have no idea, but probably more than you think would be reasonable. But did they burn through 3 sets of them within a decade?
     
  16. BK613

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    In the early 1970s, CNO Zumwalt killed off the enlisted "Crackerjacks" uniform* in favor of a version of the Officer/CPO coat-and-tie. "One Navy, One Uniform" was the sales pitch. By the time I entered service in 1980, those uniform changes were being reverted. So six years or so for CJs to no-CJs to CJs again.

    *(and dungarees, but that is a bit more complicated.)
     
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  17. fireproof78

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    Depends on the command authority.
     
  18. Chaos Descending

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    Depending on the decade, yes.
     
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    And no 29th Century uniforms shows either.