What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

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  1. Push The Button

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    This is the best thing I’ve read today, well done.
     
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    Q can say "fuck" now. This changes everything. I can't wait:lol:
     
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    When is he coming back?
     
  4. F. King Daniel

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    ST: Picard season 2.
     
  5. Farscape One

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    He is? For real?

    I know he did a cameo for LOWER DECKS.

    (I just looked. It looks true!)
     
  6. 1001001

    1001001 Serial Canon Violator Moderator

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    Voyager Season 1-2 was better than 3-7 when it became aliens of the week
     
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  8. fireproof78

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    With all the chatter around the new teasers I have run up against some new ones for me:
    -Time travel is overused in Star Trek and doesn't add anything to a story.
    -City on the Edge of Forever is not the greatest Trek episode ever, or even in my top ten. It is a rather depressing, if well acted, piece of fiction.
    -Q is not enjoyable. Not in TNG, not in DS9, not VOY.
    -Canon status does not equal enjoyable.
     
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  9. Serveaux

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    I think they're a kind of polyester knit. I own one made from the original third season fabric, and I believe that's what the guy said. They don't seem nylon-y, which in the 60s would not have been very durable knit.
     
  10. Damian

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    Agree about time travel. It has its moments, but it's definitely overused.

    I also agree about "The City On the Edge of Forever". I liked it, it's definitely in the upper half of the original series as far as quality. But the best? Nah. I'll take "The Doomsday Machine" or "Journey to Babel" any day. My favorite of the 1st season was actually "The Menagerie".

    And I suppose it might be a controversial opinion...I liked "The Alternative Factor" even though I realize the premise is a bit outlandish. And I always liked season 3.

    Can't agree about Q though overall, LOL. There are Q episodes I didn't care for as much though. The DS9 episode he was in was a bit weak and I wasn't a big fan of his Voyager episodes, except maybe the first one where that other Q wanted to be mortal so he could die (sorry, can't remember all the episodes off hand).

    Definitely agree about canon status though. Fans obsess over that way too much (and sometimes I think they are confusing canon with continuity). I just noted on another thread that I really enjoyed the relaunch novelverse, and because I've followed that continuity for the last 20+ years I've grown to actually see that as the 'prime' universe and Picard as an alternate universe, even though I know that is not at all 'canon.'
     
  11. Serveaux

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    COTEOF is definitely the best.
     
  12. cooleddie74

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    I think an article once described the Season 3 tunics as rayon but I could be mistaken. I just know the shirts had a much more expensive-looking sheen and were sewn better. A shame they got their best wardrobe as the series was headed off the air.
     
  13. cooleddie74

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    Trek by definition relies heavily on its nostalgia and every series leans on actors from other shows and the films to drive up interest in the newest incarnation. At least this time around they introduced Seven of Nine in the first season and didn't wait until two or three years in to add a cast member from another series to the lineup.
     
  14. RAMA

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    Picard is better than Kirk....

    Oh that's so 1980s
     
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  15. fireproof78

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    Yeah, City definitely has its moments but I can't rank it in the top ten for me. And Alternative Factor is definitely one I enjoy.

    Speaking of trying to make the top ten Q struggles with me. "Death Wish" is interesting largely because it explores the nature of humanity. Q struggles with that. He claims superiority, but obsessives over human kind. It is weird and incongruent in a way that stands out.

    As far as canon, I don't give a torn dollar bill what universe it is, aside from the Kelvin Universe. I think there are plenty of books, comics and RPGs that add just as much as anything that is official. Largely because it's all meant to be fun, enjoyable and engaging the imagination.
     
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  16. cooleddie74

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    "Death Wish(VOY)" may be the greatest Q Continuum episode ever. Period.
     
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    1001001 Serial Canon Violator Moderator

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    Q and Guinan...these are both very important people in Picard’s life.

    I say it would be more weird if they didn’t show up.
     
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    And were married.
     
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    I can only remember one episode dealing with it directly off-hand...

    I'd like it more if they were in the animated shows. The actors are a lot more mortal than the characters...

    If only Voyager had stopped there.

    Yet still no Beverly.
     
  20. Coops

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    What some people dislike about modern Trek is sometimes what they dislike about the modern world...
     
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