What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

Now we're throwing Klingon piss on a coolant leak!

 

Completely agreed! One of my favorites of TNG, and I will defend that episode. Always. (And I have already.)

 

I'll stand with you on that one. I found that episode to be an interesting exploration of a culture's mythology.

 

Out of both sets of genitals?

 

Don't cross our streams, Peter.

 

Brent Spiner can do profoundly creepy and unsettling when he wants and nobody else in the TNG cast could touch him.

 

It absolutely is! And the notion of a person as a collection of multiple different personas is splendid!

 

Exactly! Picard even has an artifact that reflects a society's opinion of that very notion... the Kurlan Neskoss.

 

Controversial Opinion: I'm looking more forward to Discovery Season 4 and Picard Season 2 than the rest of the upcoming line-up.

I think Strange New Worlds will win me over, but Standard/Traditional TOS/TNG/VOY "back to basics" type Star Trek isn't what I really go for these days. Probably because of the (IMO) diminishing returns: TOS>TNG>VOY>Early-ENT. Hopefully SNW breaks the pattern. The 2019 Shorts, which were effectively SNW Shorts, were okay but that's it. "The Trouble With Edward" was a lot of fun... but I think "Q&A" and "Ask Not" -- along with DSC's "New Eden" -- give a better sense of what SNW will really be like.

 

This isn’t controversial from my seat.

SNW has the potential to be great because the cast is amazing. But, if it’s just “mission of the week” stuff we’ve had 700 times already, I’m not sure I’ll care too much. It will have to be REALLY GOOD anthology-like science fiction for that to hold my interest.

I also worry that they are moving DSC in that general direction, which would even further frustrate the situation.

 

If the quality level hits TOS, mid-TNG, or the original Twilight Zone (while we're speaking of anthologies), I'll be very happy with SNW.

If it's like late-TNG, VOY, or early-ENT, I'll be like "Well, I hope you people who wanted this show so badly like what you've got! See you on the flip-side."

 

I'm curious: Did DS9 break the pattern of diminishing returns for you, or did you just not watch it?

 

I watched it, but it's not traditional, episodic starship Trek. I'm comparing similar shows with a similar format to each other. I like DS9 better than TNG but not as much as TOS.

 

Gotcha. I'm the same way. DS9 is my second favorite series.

 

Ditto.
I really dislike DSC, because it shows the decade before TOS being more technologically advanced than after TOS/TAS. I also think that no one can really play Spock but Leonard Nimoy, same with Kirk, Scotty, Checkov and McCoy.

 

DS9 was quite episodic for most of its run. There were longer arcs (starting with the 5-episode arc early in S6), but even the last 2 seasons were peppered with standalone episodes.

 

Indeed, yes.

 

Splitting hairs. I said "traditional episodic Starship Trek". DS9 wasn't a Starship Show and its setting was non-traditional, along with a lot of the characters. It was a different format with different types of characters and it stayed within the vicinity of one planet that we spent a lot more time with and got to know its neighbors. What I like about DS9 is that it was something besides what TOS, TNG, VOY, and ENT were doing. There were certain types of Star Trek episodes that you could only do on DS9.

So what I say stands: I think TOS was better than TNG, I think TNG was better than VOY, and I think VOY was better than the first two seasons of ENT. With each new series in that type of setting and format, it became worse on average than what it was before. Which keeps my enthusiasm for SNW firmly in check.

But ENT Season 2 was the nadir. If nothing else, I'm pretty sure SNW will be a lot better than that, at least.