Turbolifts

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by erotavlas, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. erotavlas

    erotavlas Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Is it just me or do the turbo lifts make the ship seem hollow. I mean instead of shafts running through and between decks, it's like they are travelling through a giant empty ship with no decks whatsoever.
     
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  2. fireproof78

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    Yeah, Discovery seems to be a bit of a hollow space with modules attached inside. Been an ongoing thing.
     
  3. The Wormhole

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    Kurtzman himself has said the ship is supposed to be hollow with the habitable areas located along the perimeter. Supposedly, the intent was to explain how the ship could be twice the size of a Constitution class but only have a fraction of the crew, or so says Kurtzman.

    Then they went ahead and showed the Enterprise also had a similar turbolift contraption in the Q&A Short Trek thereby negating that supposed retcon.
     
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  4. valkyrie013

    valkyrie013 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    For the Ship Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky!
     
  5. Nerys Myk

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    Yay! Another turbolift thread!!!!!
     
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  7. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Even if the ship was hollow, no way would that space fit inside:lol: They could have CG'd something a lot smaller but still enourmous but they didn't. It made me smile. I think we should sticky one of the threads about it, techheads are gonna be mad for years.

    The turbolift battle itself reminded me of Spock and Khan fighting in the skies of San Francisco at the end of Into Darkness.
     
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  8. F. King Daniel

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    Where did Kurtzman say that? I thought it was a rationale I came up with (but I still think doesn't work)
     
  9. The Wormhole

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    I thought you said Kurtzman said it? Or maybe I'm conflating things with the reports that the whole thing was thought up by the "episode's director" without consulting anyone else. Given this contraption first showed up in an episode directed by Kurtzman, that would fit. And it also fits with how Kurtzman basically treated season 2 as his "Fix Canon" agenda with everything in that season meant to rectify the mistakes committed in the first season.
     
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  10. F. King Daniel

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    Kurtzman directed S02E01 where it first appeared, so it's got to have gone through him. That's probably what I said, with my own idea of Hollow Discovery to try and justify it.
     
  11. Dukhat

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    None of it makes any logical sense. It’s purely a visual oddity that one should just ignore and not take remotely seriously.
     
  12. fireproof78

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    I don't see any reason to take it seriously.
     
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  13. F. King Daniel

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    And to think, I used to worry the open plaza wouldn't fit behind the bridge in Star Trek Into Darkness:lol:
     
  14. Deks

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    In the 32nd century at least, we can reconcile this vast chasm with the premise that we saw TARDIS tech on a 30th century damaged pod back in Enterprise.

    Problem is, we have 0 verbal confirmation this technology was incorporated into Discovery as part of its refit, and it also creates a headache for the writers because you could simply place a large amount of 32nd century fusion reactors or thermionic generators... or tetryon reactors (or all of the above) for massive power production (not to mention a whole slew of other technologies in a networked fashion) which would be more than enough for not just Warp but other FTL and FTW (faster than Warp) propulsion but other stuff like weapons, shields, sensors, research, etc.

    But heck, even if this technology existed, I'm sure it would be conveniently forgotten and never used in any modicum of sense to its fullest potential on the show itself. :D
     
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    Optical illusion.

    Or a magic mushroom hallucination.
     
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    The scale is exaggerated on Discovery, but the TNG technical manual describes the Enterprise D as having the habitable areas on flexible modules with 35% of the interior of the ship left open for expansion and mission-specific applications.

    This guy posted an excerpt on Twitter.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamHunault/status/1230168382881689601
     
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  17. Timo

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    Also, TPTB did take great pains to show that every single indoors set (save just possibly engineering) in fact is at the very outermost edge of the hull. Including all the ones you reach by walking outward from the ones explicitly at the outer edge... The TARDIS effect goes both ways, really.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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  18. publiusr

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    Turbo lifts can now be thought of as more than lifeboats now. Less need of shuttles
     
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    Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise spoke to that option, as did prior fan-published works, right? If you couldn't get to a shuttle or a transporter room...and the Kelvinverse Enterprise did seem to be set up for that.
     
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  20. Timo

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    Kirk's old ship even had this nice chute from which the cabs would shoot out in emergencies, right behind the bridge...

    No such thing in the refits. Or the Discovery. But the Discoprise has it!

    Timo Saloniemi