Spoilers General Disco Chat Thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Lord Garth, Jul 6, 2018.

  1. fireproof78

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    Well, crying isn't an indication of quality...

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    I may not like the D but I'm glad it inspires.
     
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  2. Tim Thomason

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    They didn't know, hence "they were surprised to learn about the Romulans". That's something that should've been covered in any basic perusal of the UFP Wikipedia page.

    Vance's specific line (to Burnham!) was: "You see, history had forgot this in your time, but the Vulcans and the Romulans were two tribes of the same species that went their separate ways. Your brother started the process of reunifying them."

    So, Burnham, after spending a year in the 32nd century and then at least three weeks comfortably within Federation Headquarters, never bothered to learn about what happened to the Vulcans.
     
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  3. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Commodore Commodore

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    Or her brother for that matter or Earth by the looks of it
     
  4. fireproof78

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    She was consumed with other things.
     
  5. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Commodore Commodore

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    Didn't even have a few minutes to "Search for Spock" on Memory Alpha in her down time
     
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  6. fireproof78

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    Apparently not. Given Burnham's tendency to become more obsessive I would say it is consistent. Honestly, it might have been more of a defense mechanism against painful news on top of the struggle with being in a completely new time, and the large amount of changes. It's a lot to take in at once.
     
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  7. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Story works better with her being uninformed. Makes the info dump for the audience flow better.
     
  8. Tim Thomason

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    Absolutely. But they don't need to ignorize Burnham (my second favorite character!) to achieve this. She should be the one informing the audience analogue of Vulcan's status, just as she had in the first few episodes of the state of galaxy to the Discovery crew. There are many that Burnham could tell about Ni'Var and the Romulans (Tilly, Saru, even Adira who might not even know what a Vulcan is). The only thing that might surprise Burnham is the fate of Spock, and that should be on the supposition that she did not look into Spock's fate (or the fate of any of her family) because it was a sore topic.
     
  9. fireproof78

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    I don't think they did. I think she became focus on Earth, on the Federation and on the cause of the Burn. She's obsessive and myopically so.
     
  10. Gingerbread Demon

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    In other words bullshit from professional bullshitters
     
  11. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Vice Admiral Moderator

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    She remembers to send a signal to ler her brother know she is alright, but does not bother to check the history records, for a whole year, to find out what happened to said brother and any of her family.
    Nonsense!
     
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    That's called a plot hole and series are riddled with them.
     
  13. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    It's valid dramatic choice. Plays better with Michael getting all wistful seeing a picture of Nimoy as Spock than going "yeah I know all this. Now let's talk the burn".
     
  14. Kzinti

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    huh? what nonsense? the reality is that she's couldn't contact the federation for that info since subspace com was a mess and Sahil outpost probably didn't have 900+ year of historical data as for ni'var i'm pretty sure they're isolationist
     
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  15. Nyotarules

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    Discovey was at Starfleet HQ for weeks.
     
  16. Kzinti

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    oh i thought you meant in the one year time gap lol then yeah i agree it's nonsense
     
  17. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Yep, but like I said it works better for the story beats. Like Kirk never once having looked at Spock bio so we can have a dramatic moment in Journey To Babel,
     
  18. fireproof78

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    I don't think so
     
  19. Nyotarules

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    Do organisations list the names of relatives on personnel files? Maybe his next of kin records just said A. Grayson lol
     
  20. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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