Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x12 - "There Is A Tide…"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Dec 30, 2020.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Excellent!

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  2. 9

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  3. 8

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  1. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah, then they are definitely not going to use it.

    Killing the crew is the Jane-way* not the Starfleet way.


    *with all due credit to SF Debris.
     
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  2. Fateor

    Fateor Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Um no? It doesn't kill the crew, it doesn't even risk the crew so long as they don't exceed their computers jump limit.
     
  3. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    And how would they determine they have exceeded the jump limit? My guess would be through testing, exceed the limit, kills someone. And Starfleet shelves it. And that assumes that that is the only thing that goes wrong, which is not likely.

    It has shelved tech for less.
     
  4. DarthTimon

    DarthTimon Commander Red Shirt

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    Interesting stuff regarding what the Chain seems to want.

    A merger with the Federation? It's telling that the Chain knew it would have to make serious concessions, though there must be an agenda.
     
  5. Discofan

    Discofan Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah, it's the story of the scorpion and the frog...
     
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  6. LtChange

    LtChange Captain Captain

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    This would be such a great show if the writers could resist the urge to make somebody cry every damn episode. I'm so sick of all the crying that is driving me crazy. It doesn't have any emotional impact at me by now, it is annoying as hell. This is a great episode, I love what they have done with the story, where they are taking it, I like their explanation of the Burn. Everything is acceptable at least but usually good to very good. But than of course there comes a scene where Burnham MUST CRY. Every damn episode BURNHAM MUST CRY. And it is better if she usually finds a partner in crime and so THEY CAN CRY TOGETHER. Because this is drama. Well it's not. I will not hate the show because I love the show. But I hate all the crying. And because we have a season finale incoming I presume next week everybody cries and Burnham will cry at least 3 times ... Because why not? Crying will bring emotions to the viewers. Yes dear writers they are bringing emotions to me. But not the ones you want ...
     
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  7. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Where's the crying jar?
     
  8. Timo

    Timo Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Oh, for crying out loud...

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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  9. Discofan

    Discofan Admiral Admiral

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    Cry me a river...
     
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  10. Cyrus

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    They built one in Las Vegas. I stayed in it on one trip. :)
     
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  11. eschaton

    eschaton Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    In retrospect, the Emerald Chain wanting in - wanting recognition - makes a good deal of sense.

    I mean, fundamentally the Chain is not a group of bandits. They are the mafia. They want a "piece of the action." They would rather have a system where they can set up protection rackets quietly and not have to be heavy on enforcement. "Uniting" with the Federation gives them a veneer of respectability, and opens up a number of new markets - more than enough to make toning down some of their historic revenue sources (like slaving and exploiting primitive worlds) worthwhile. They just need to worm their way into the Federation and make themselves indispensable, skimming their customary 20% (or whatever) off the top of everything.
     
  12. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Admiral Admiral

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    Got a question: Why did we never hear about this constant crying shit during the first two seasons? Is it because now that it's not a prequel, doesn't have TOS characters, or new Klingons, they're zeroing in on and fine-tuning the Burnham Hate? Because this shit's getting old.
     
  13. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Season 2 twist-Bela Omyx's descendant started the Chain.

    Honestly, what bothers me more is the constant assumption that the writers are using it as manipulation rather than exploring the characters and their own emotional reactions.
     
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  14. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Commodore Commodore

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    Did it happen as much in the first 2 seasons ?
    I honestly can't remember
     
  15. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I recall several situations, pretty much struck me as being on par with S3.
     
  16. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Admiral Admiral

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    I think everything else that's not part of the series anymore took up more of the focus of the criticism and the bashing.

    Little by little, they've gotten rid of the things people were complaining about with DSC. Now we're getting down to the parts they're not going to get rid of. So maybe I'm noticing it more because what I notice is less split up. But I'm still noticing it more now than before.

    I'm amazed I've made it through 12 weeks of this.

    EDITED TO ADD: I never thought I'd say this, but I preferred the varied criticism. Hearing the same one criticism over and over and over again is like Chinese Water Torture. It's like it's a twisted/unintentional experiment to see how long they can go before they drive everyone crazy.
     
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  17. SimiOne

    SimiOne Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    Quantum-Slipstream Device requires Benamit-Crystals which are even more rare then Dilithium and deacys fast.
     
  18. Fateor

    Fateor Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Don't need that, Stamets was able to determine the computational to distance limit before actually making the jump.
     
  19. Discofan

    Discofan Admiral Admiral

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    I think you're referring to the episode where Harry and Chak are the only survivors and Chak asks his girlfriend to help him go to a timeline where they'll never meet because he'll be involved with a tall leggy blonde with boobs like you wouldn't believe...
     
  20. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Well, sounds like it is all worked out. I trust nothing bad will never, ever, happen again.

    I do hope CBS hires you soon.. :beer:
     
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