Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x11 - "Su'Kal"

he’s a full captain but clearly inexperienced. Not sure he comes out so well in the movie, he doesn’t seem to have many ideas and it’s basically Kirk to devise a “strategy” (strategy being mostly “go in and hope for the best, but ok).

 

and TNG, if you consider the Ferengi as main enemy (that was why they were created) or consider the movies as part of the series.

And in TOS the Klingon control part of the ship at one point...

 

Can we not?

Much as I'd like to give this to Kang, as he's my favorite of the TOS Klingons, the ball of light fixed the game. So I don't know if it really counts.

 

Most of the Enterprise, in fact. Kirk and his crew controlled only about a third of the decks at one point in "Day of the Dove(TOS)."

 

Since when can you get boarded when shields are up? Shields at 54% are still SHIELDS!

I've enjoyed the season to date but the reveal of the Burn was predictably under whelming. An Galactic level event being caused by a stupid child in a Nebula is hardly an interesting story IMO. Could of done a whole new species, a new threat or used the Temporal Cold Wars but instead we get a child and a planet somehow affected the entire Galaxy's supply of Dilithium...

PLEASE

B&B wouldn't of been this bad.

 

Didn't exist in the TOS era. Kirk's only alternative in "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" is to blow up the ship.

 

He does what Tilly should have done. Realizes he's in over his head, and immediately attempts to give command to a more experienced officer.

Harriman was also stymied by the fact that the Enterprise-B was put into an emergency rescue operation without basic necessities (tractor beam, photon torpedoes, a medical staff). The Discovery-A presumably has the full capability of 32nd century technology.

Tilly should have been commanding night shifts and probably holodeck training and other minor situations, so that her being put in command during Saru's away mission would be old hat for the bridge crew. And give her a second. If something comes up, as it did, have Nilsson there (or better yet, Burnham) to take over. No harm, no foul, better luck next time.

 

It's not like the Discovery crew thought being boarded was possible when it happened. I presume this is a question that will be answered next week.

 

Yes, but the ship was retrofitted with 29th century tech!, haha!

Even in the 23rd, it seems an oversight to have nothing else but the extreme option of a self destruct.

 

I actually think Tilly was ok. She was savvy enough to realize it wasn’t a fed ship and not afraid to make the hard call with Stamets/away team. I think the things that we are attributing to her failure of command (not putting shields up, no intruder alert of any kind, though that one isn’t really on her) are oversights from the writers. You have to think that every officer, especially bridge officers, are trained in basic procedures for some of this but they needed to get the ship taken over so the writers just did it quickly.

 

Interesting point. Of course, I can't help but wonder how long that could sustain them and if that even solves the larger problem of dilithium drying up even before the Burn occurred.

 

I have no issue with the forced species-change, I think that was the point of the IMPUT REQUIRED - the ship is unable to identify their actual species as such it gives them random ones from those already used.

But I just do not get how both Burnham and Culber recognize the Bajoran species... Romulans were a surprise like 3 episodes ago, but an unknown race in the 23rd century is no problem. Although, I get Burnham could have learned about the Bajorans from her year with Book as the Cardassians were around...

Also just when was Kaminar admitted to the Federation? The welcoming committee is wearing the grey style uniforms, so just "recently", post 29th century?

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And we return to the question when did the Burn occur? Su'Kal was born 120 years ago, so when did he cry for the first time? I would expect it to be a regular occurrence...

 

Could they have met Bajoran officers at Federation Headquarters and become used to the species by now?

 

Right. Guess Tilly's not caught up on her tech manuals. Or something something sphere data, take your pick.

 

We don't know when official first contact with Bajor took place, but it's still possible that people in DSC/TOS' time frame knew about the Bajorans even if they hadn't met them. Bajor's civilization is much older than any member of the Federation...

 

Well, it is a dilithium "nursery." We don't really know what the hell dilithium is. Maybe it breeds.

(Any old-time CRPG players suddenly thinking of the central plot reveal in Starflight?)

 

We've seen a Bajoran in Scavengers, Lai

 

To support their friends and collogues. Funerals and memorial services are not for the dead. They are for those left behind. It's the same reason why people send sympathy cards even though they didn't know the person who died.

 

Well, sometimes they are for the deceased. I've already been to funerals where I didn't know anybody except the deceased.

 

and isn’t there a mention of “the Bajoran trade markets” in one of the previous eps?