Spoilers The Mandalorian season 2 discussion

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  1. Kor

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    Based on Mando's line about "a race of sorcerers," I think he did have that impression. It would fit in with the idea that the Empire suppressed knowledge of the Force and the Jedi for the last few decades, so the details are still very fuzzy in the galactic public consciousness.

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  2. Booji

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    So much for that...
     
  3. Richard Baker

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    I think the egg eating thing goes to show that the child is an nnocent following basic instinct and impulse with no moral education. A young human child is always trying to eat things 'just because', doesn't matter if it's a bug, a Lego or even a shooting missile from a figure's jetpack. A parent has watch continually and teach what to do and not do, thus far this child's education seems to be being carried around and watching Mando shhot things.,
     
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  4. JD

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    I had originally thought she meant his species, and was a bit surprised to realize she just meant the Jedi.
     
  5. The Wormhole

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    What's there to disagree with? The Armorer actually tells Mando about "a race of sorcerers known as Jedi" when she learns of Baby Yoda's abilities, so, yes, Mando is under the impression that "Jedi" is the name of Baby Yoda's species.
     
  6. Reverend

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    As it stands it can honestly be inferred either way since there's a *tiny* bit of ambiguity there since "race" and "species" might not necessarily mean the same thing depending on context. For example; "Mandalorian" is a race (yes, a creed too), and while all Mandalorians seem to be human (unless Frogwai counts) not all humans are Mandalorian, obviously.

    I'm not saying it's one way or the other because we just don't know. Personally inclined to believe that he's going under the presumption that *he doesn't know* enough about "Jedi" to make any assumptions precisely because he only has two leads to follow when hunting down the Jedi: 1) can do weird crap with their minds. 2) possibly looks like *that*.
    I'm sure he'll be pursuing either lead if anything crops up, but it's a little academic since right now he seems more immediately focused on tracking down the covert network, presumably hoping another armorer priest has more detailed information. Which does rather support my interpretation more than the others.
     
  7. JD

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    How much has the new canon gotten into the origins of the Jedi?
    Maybe the Yodas' species actually is called Jedi and they were the ones who started the Order and it was named after them.
    I would love to see the show actually address this if it gets to a point where Baby Yoda starts to mature a bit more.
     
  8. UssGlenn

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    Came here to say this. Perhaps Jedi is much like Mandalorian in that way. It's a race and a creed. I think the Sith have been presented in the same way in the books.
     
  9. fireproof78

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    I was thinking a similar thing. The Sith were initially presented as a race conquered by Dark Side users, thus allowing them to be called "Lords of the Sith."
     
  10. DigificWriter

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    I disagree that she was giving the impression you think she was.
     
  11. Saul

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    I keep thinking about the age of the child. The child is 50 years old. So he would have been born around the same time as Anakin. I wonder if that will play into the story. Where was the child for the past 50 years? Might he be a clone of Yoda?
     
  12. Tuskin38

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    How can you misinterpret the word 'race'?
     
  13. DigificWriter

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    I'm not misinterpreting anything; I'm simply not automatically jumping to the conclusion that Din is looking for The Child's species just because the phrase 'race of sorcerers' was used.
     
  14. fireproof78

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    I was specifically discussing Boba Fett's storyline, the fact that I don't think him coming back is additive to the lore, or necessary from a story point of view, if inevitable.

    Despite my strong dislike of Mandalorians in general, Fett in particular, this show offers small expansions of SW lore that have a small amount of interest for me. I don't like it for most of the reasons others might, but I'll still be curious to see the little details, like the Tusken language, New Republic pilots, or different cultural aspects.
     
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    Educational. :beer:
     
  17. marillion

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    I think, though I can't find the source, it was explicitly stated by the producer during season one that the child is not a Yoda clone. But to your other question, good question. I'd like to know that too.
     
  18. JD

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    After rewatching it I am less put off by it in terms of story as it definitely exemplifies the dire situation they are all in. I do appreciate the it is demonstrating the pressing need for Din to actually teach the Child rather than just protect him.

    I didn't find it funny, but disturbing, but a rewatch definitely put it in better perspective than my initial reaction.
     
  20. Reverend

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    Not very much beyond some ambiguous tidbits in the reference books for TLJ that can and probably will be retconned out when they come to actually tell that story.
    That was a bad idea when it was applied to the Sith in Legends, and it's an even worse idea here. Naming a religion devoted to selflessness after the race that (maybe) founded it seems like an oxymoron at best, anathema at worst.