Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x01 - "That Hope Is You, Part 1"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Oct 14, 2020.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Excellent!

    16.1%
  2. 9

    25.2%
  3. 8

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  4. 7

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  5. 6

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  6. 5

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  1. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Animals are assholes too. Just try raising chickens and watch them try to kill each other if there is any blood unless you're careful.
    I must have watched different Star Wars movies than most.
     
  2. cooleddie74

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    No, DSC is 21st century HD Trek. A lot of the visual choices the latest series take started with ENT in 2001 and the year-long story arcs began with DS9 several years earlier.
     
  3. firehawk12

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    I'm still trying to understand my feelings over the episode as a whole, as well as the "save the Federation" premise, but I'll just say the kind of simple awe-inspired belief in something greater that was encapsulated in the Mr. Sahil scene has been missing from these new shows and made me remember why I liked Star Trek in the first place.

    Of course, maybe it's because of the political failures of 2020 and how the world is about to fall apart that could make that scene a lot more touching to me than it would be otherwise, but I felt emotional watching Mr. Sahil become inspired by Burnham to believe in something.
     
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  4. eschaton

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    I though he was one of those aliens from The Gambit?

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    One other thing that didn't make sense to me: They stole a bunch of diliithium, which the episode makes clear is now incredibly valuable. Why are they coming after them with weapons that can vaporize? Wouldn't that vaporize the dilithium? Or even worse, make a huge boom?

    We have no reason to presume these people are assholes. They're just working a job, which in this case is providing security at a trading station. No reason for a death sentence.
     
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  5. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Sahil getting the field commission from an officer who's 930 years out of her own time and herself lost and scared was a touching moment. Both are feeling lost and directionless but now they both have greater purpose and she helped him find his.
     
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  6. Tim Thomason

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    Good point. Probably why they weren't trying to vaporize Michael, just hitting her with a cutting beam or concussion blasts. I was confused why they didn't up the ante to vaporize after Michael and Book started killing them, but you may have answered that question. Dilithium is just that valuable (and also, whatever unknown cargo Book had).
     
  7. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I mean, I would expect the containers to be shielded in some fashion.
     
  8. eschaton

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    I have to rewatch, but I swear Michael was just stuffing dilithium into her pockets.
     
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  9. NCC-73515

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    I first thought he's Yridian too, but they said on the ready room that he's Betelgeusean
     
  10. Isaac Lawrence

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    Yeah, the whole it's like "Star Wars" thing was always so weird to me. I mean, literally from the opening minutes of the first episode it was clearly Star Trek. And yeah, it's not 1992 Star Trek, it's 2020 Star Trek. It's not 20th century Star Trek, it's 21st century Star Trek.

    This was funny...
    ...I guess everyone sees that.

    And the aforementioned Cleveland Booker, my new favorite character™....

    A new startreklogs Instagram is up. It's basically just a brief summary of the episode.

    And in The Ready Room for this episode, David Ajala made a curious connection about Cleveland Booker, my new favorite character™ and his special ability (I don't think it means anything, though)...



    EDIT: Oh, and there's tech talk too, and the usual sneak peek at episode 2.
     
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  11. cooleddie74

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    Which...I'm glad. They appear to have left Lurian and Cardassian makeup alone and I want the Yridians to remain the way they were in the Berman Era series.
     
  12. Solarbaby

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    Its not OTT at all. I have never been so bored and disappointed. And I've sat through Masks.
    Nothing at all seemed in the Trek universe other than the aliens. It was too much like Star Wars. I like Star Wars, this was BAD star wars. Thats my opinion and it wasn't OTT
     
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  13. Mr. Adventure

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    This season on Star Trek: Michael Burnham...

    Not quite sure what I think, I like Idris Astro and all but it seems more generic action sci-fi than "Star Trek" but maybe that will come more as the season progresses.

    It is pretty decent action sci-fi though those guys had worse aim than stormtroopers. Why do future guns always seem so impractical to aim and shoot?
     
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  14. SG-17

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    You try shooting while running and being accurate. Its not like they were firing LMGs and had the benefit of flooding the field with bullets.
     
  15. Tim Thomason

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    They were in a special alcove that Michael and Book break into. I will assume that they were left in the open specifically so that patrons can inspect the crystals and test their veracity. It's a seedy trading hub, so you don't want to buy some red-painted glass.
     
  16. tomalak301

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    Just saw it and I give the episode a 7

    It was a pretty average opener, and for being on Burnham she had to do a lot of the legwork. I'm not really a fan of openers that kind of delay what happened to everyone for a week or two or 3 so when we didn't even see a hint of Discovery I got a little discouraged. I did love the chemistry between Book and Burnham though, and Burnham drugged up was hilarious.

    What saved this episode for me (And I actually got a really big Star Wars feel from it) was the end scene with Burnham, Sahil and raising the flag. I thought that was a great moment and the music build up gave me a little goosebump. I'm excited for the new season, but overall, this opener was a lot more average than I would have liked. Brother is still the best of the three so far.
     
  17. Airmandan

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    Given when they were looking for Discovery at the station, you'd think they would have tried contacting the to unidentified Federation starships that were in range.
     
  18. Saul

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    Hang on there now. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but it did turn hot. The first two episodes of season 4 served to wrap up the TCW arc (very poorly) by having it become a full blown war. Remember Daniels was all messed up and said that the war was no longer a cold one. Then Daniels comes back at the end to tell Archer the war is coming to an end for good.
    Even the trailers/promos called it a time war if I remember correctly.
     
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  19. fireproof78

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    Running always impacts accuracy. Even in the future that is not a guarantee of hitting your target that is moving. One tip for surviving being shot at is to move in a zig-zag or non-linear fashion.

    Also, stormtrooper inaccuracy is overblown, at least according to YouTube.

     
  20. Orphalesion

    Orphalesion Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    So....

    On one hand I quite like it.Like the new character (is Book his real name) LOVED that market place (was it located in some sort of ruined ship??) Loved the alien makeup, loved the designs and all.

    On the other hand I wish this was a different show and not Star Trek.
    Not because "tHiS iZ nOt TrEk" or anything like that. I just feel that this premise is so removed from the other shows, and potentially also in world building that I wish it was free of the Star Trek brand to be even more of its own thing.
     
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