CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by jespah, May 10, 2018.

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Do you enjoy pie?

  1. Yes, sweet, please

    79 vote(s)
    41.6%
  2. Yes, savory, please

    42 vote(s)
    22.1%
  3. Yes, any kind

    78 vote(s)
    41.1%
  4. No, I'm a heathen

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    18.9%
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  1. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Admiral Premium Member

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    I guess I’m an idiot. The only copyright that matters is the one owned by Viacom/CBS/Paramount. Nobody else. Should be as simple as that, no? How anyone - Alec, Paul, or anyone else - can claim copyright to anything even remotely Trek related continues to mystify me. If copyright law is not enforceable in favor or its owner, then what is the point of any of it? I guess this is how patents are stolen without recourse.
     
  2. Matthew Raymond

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    Right.
    Seem a rather charitable interpretation of the situation, but I suppose it's possible.
    True.
    ¿Qué?
     
  3. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Admiral Premium Member

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    ^^^ A patent my dad’s company was working on 30 years ago on non-GPS line-of-sight for cell phones got mysteriously lifted by another rival company backed by a larger telecommunications company with deeper pockets. I was working on the mapping system for the presentation layer back then, one of my first jobs. Years of litigation went nowhere because of said deeper pockets of our adversary and eventually mobile phone technology evolved beyond this particular idea’s usefulness - higher frequency forward/reverse channels with shorter range and requiring less transmission power, more numerous cell towers that interfered with directional signal tracking, etc. Many years and several millions in venture capital wasted and opportunity lost. I know this wasn’t the only instance of this happening in all of human history.

    Copyright and patents are similar concepts, whose ideals, at the end of the day, are specifically designed to protect intellectual property. If it’s so easy to steal other people’s work for profit (not fair use) and nobody within the so-called “justice system” that’s willing or able to enforce the existing laws, then what’s the point of making the laws? Wasting taxpayer dollars on perfunctory legislators? People say that without the laws we would have anarchy. Seems to me we’ve already been there for some time.
     
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  4. Admiral2

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    Okay. That's all I needed to see.
     
  5. MikeH92467

    MikeH92467 Admiral Admiral

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    That really was the point I was trying to make (not very well, it would seem). The idea that these guys would accuse each other of violating each other's copyrights when Axanar is built around somebody else's intellectual property just strikes me as ludicrous...:shrug:
     
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  6. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Admiral Premium Member

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    Then yes, I agree with you. :)
     
  7. Jedi_Master

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    While I appreciate the many pages of erudite conversation on this topic, I think you will all be embarrassed when Alec produces the carefully prepared, thoroughly vetted, painfully detailed written agreement between Paul Jenkins, META Productions, Alec Peters, and Axanar Productions.
    I am sure his attorneys are highlighting the relevant passages of said agreement as we speak.
     
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  8. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Admiral Premium Member

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    Indeed...
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  10. Noname Given

    Noname Given Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Can I PLEASE HAVE some of what you must be smoking?? I really NEED a good break from reality today! ;):rommie:
     
  11. Jedi_Master

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    Come on over!
     
  12. jespah

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    I saw we go on a road trip to @Jedi_Master 's house and, therefore, I call shotgun.
     
  13. MikeH92467

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    When I was in college there was nothing like a good shotgun to get a party started!
     
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  14. jespah

    jespah Taller than a Hobbit Moderator

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    So, you've been to a lotta weddings?
     
  15. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Admiral Premium Member

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    Not everything's like West Virginia. :lol:
     
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  16. JD

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    Let's get this party started.
     
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    .....will there be pie?
     
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  18. Sgt_G

    Sgt_G Commodore Commodore

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    Never heard of a Wedding Pie before ......
     
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  19. CorporalCaptain

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    I've heard of a pie in the face! :whistle:
     
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  20. jespah

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    Actually, fer realz my cousin Heather had pies at her wedding in lieu of cake. They were goooooooooooooooooooooood.