Spoilers The Boys: Season 2 on Amazon Prime (2020)

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  1. JD

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    I've been wondering what would happen with The Seven and Homelander specifically if they managed to take down Vought, but not the Supes. How much worse would they be without Vought there to, kind of, keep them under control?
     
  2. Xerxes82

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    Spoilers for the comic, and thus potentially for the series
    That's more or less the endgame of the comic. Homelander builds his own Supe army, rebels against Vought, and takes over the US before he finally gets killed off.
     
  3. BillJ

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    Watched the first two episodes last night, fairly entertaining and engaging. Though the thing with the Deep talking to his gills went on waaayyyyyyy too long. It mostly felt like padding.
     
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    I think he is by far the best thing about the series. He is sympathetic, twisted and terrifying all at the same time.
     
  5. JD

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    I really need to get back to Outrageous Fortune one of these days. It featured Homelander aka Antony Starr in a dual role as twin brothers, along with The Outpost's Robyn Malcolm as their mother, and Defiance's Grant Bowler as their father.
     
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    Loved Homelander losing it at the protest and unleashing his heat vision on them, then a bit sad when it was just a fantasy
     
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    I kind of figured that's all it would be.
     
  8. Xerxes82

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    The actor who plays Homelander is so good. His confusion, his panic. Even his malice, when he fantasizes about murdering the crowd.

    Terror! Now the group is complete, even if only for an episode.

    Stormfront is excellent. She oozes charisma and charm, but you can increasingly tell that she's just malevolent to the core. Almost certainly worse than Homelander. Really curious where they go with the character overall.

    This season feels less focused than the first, but perhaps richer for it. I'm wondering if they'll tie off any of these plots by the end of the season, or if we're going fully serialized.
     
  9. Aragorn

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    Rufus, Jiya and Flynn sure screwed up the timeline. Now they have superheroes to deal with. :D
     
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  10. JD

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    I have to admit, they really got me when Homelander started lazering the crowd.
    Butcher going full on suicidal was definitely not how I expected him to react to what happened with Becca. I can't help but wonder if they're going to eventually end up using Ryan against Homelander in some way. We saw a little of that with Butcher's blackmail, but I could still see them using him in some other way too.
    I'm curious what exactly Maeve has planned for Homelander. I've been wondering if we might eventually see her join up with Annie and The Boys at some point.
    I kind of figured Homelander and Stormfront hooking up was inevitable. Aya Cash is really doing a great job of seeming both friendly and menacing at the same time.
    It's really starting to feel like they might be setting up something bigger with The Church of the Collective. The creepy cult vibes it gives off have got me wondering if there's something darker going on under the surface that we haven't seen yet.
     
  11. FreezeC77

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    Yea. All 3 actually appeared briefly in this episode. I think it was Goran Visnic's first 'real' appearance? I don't really remember seeing the Church of the Collective leader before.

    Eric Kripke was involved with both shows, also Supernatural and that's probably why we have Jensen Ackles joining next season(not sure if he may appear this year to set it up or not)
     
  12. Aragorn

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    Or it's just one really long Scientology joke and doesn't lead to anything more.

    Or they'll have to do battle with Scientology supers.
     
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  13. JD

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    That's why he seemed so familiar.
    Who were the other Timeless cast members?
     
  14. FreezeC77

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    The congresswoman leading the protest against Homelander was Jiya who was the other tech person who dated Rufus.

    Rufus works for Vought's marketing department and was pitching the lesbian themed ad campaign to Maeve and her girlfriend. He's appeared the most I think. Some with Vought as the marketing/PR and once in a group therapy for victims of Supes collateral damage that Hughie went to and Butcher showed up. He had his dick snapped off while having sex with an ice-powered supe.
     
  15. JD

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    OK, that explains why they also all seemed familiar. I watch a lot of TV, so there tend to be a lot of familar faces popping up all over the place, but I'm not always good at figuring out why I recognize them.
     
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    So many contemporary references in this episode--I am trying to decide if they were clever or if there was too much explaining the joke. Nevertheless, another entertaining episode--this season continues to impress me.

    I am wondering though whether the white supremacist elements in the series is written as a direct reflection of the current Presidential administration or were they as overt in the comics?
     
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    In the comics Black Noir is a clone of Homelander specifically created to keep close to Homelander in case he goes rogue, which is when Vought would give the kill order to Black Noir to take out Homelander (Black Noir is also stronger than Homelander). The kicker is though that all those years being on high alert with no kill order has messed up Black Noir and he went crazy, impersonating Homelander and commiting atrocities in his name in order to get that kill order. Homelander confronts him, gets killed by Black Noir and in turn gets killed by the government and Billy Butcher.

    Could only start recently to watch and am caught up now and i really like the season and how it continues from the first season.

    Antony Starr as Homelander is awesome - that character could have easily become a caricature but Starr manages perfectly. Sometimes overacting when Homelander loses it and at other times subdued when he's down. Homelander is so messed up i can't decide if i feel pity or disgust (probably the latter most of the time).

    Stormfront is a nice addition and the peel back of her character from "edgy, nonconformist" to racist, evil bitch is great to see and now she found a partner in crime who's as messed up as she is.

    That entire show is just one big powderkeg waiiting to go off in Season 2 - Homelander and Stormfront as the superpowered psycho couple, Starlight an inch away from being discovered ( seriously, standing in public smooching Hughie with all those cameras and face recognition around? Just dumb girl!), A Train being sidelined and having an axe to grind himself and now Maeve planning her own party - and that's not even including the titular Boys throwing a wrench (or lit match) into this mess about to explode.

    The show was always gory but i guess the season finale will be extra bloody.
     
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  19. JD

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    Could be fun.
     
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    I love the joke of having Shawn Ashmore playing a pyro super. That has to be intentional.
    Pretty good episode. Starlight’s “murder” of the guy at Monk was pretty cold, but I suppose she had no choice.
    Stormfront’s revelation is interesting as I thought Soldier Boy was the first, but I assume he was the first superhero. Not the first V recipient.
     
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