Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x01 - "Second Contact"

People said "cool" in the 1950s, and started saying "man" around the same time (it was a push-back against racist whites calling black men "boy"). It's almost 70 years later. "Cool" and "Hey man" are still around.

The Beatles were mentioned in DSC. It's been almost 60 years since they debuted. They're still remembered. They're still listened to by new audiences who weren't even alive when the band was together. If they made it to 2020, they'll probably make it to 2256.

The difference between New Trek series and Old Trek series is that we now have a much better sense of what Pop Culture and Slang will endure and what won't. "That's cool" will last. "Right on!" didn't.

Even VOY and ENT started referencing stuff from the Mid-20th Century. They were beginning to tip-toe their way in slowly. Paris mentioning Night of the Living Dead isn't any different from Stamets mentioning John Lennon. Then there's Paris' 3D Theater program during the seven season of VOY and Movie Night on ENT where they watched movies from about 1930-1970.

 

Same here.

I voted 8 originally. Now? I might inch it up to a 9.

 

Unfortunately, the OP didn't set the poll to allow you to change your vote.

 

FIND HIM AND KILL HIM!!!

 

Cool goes back longer than that. First used by jazz musicians in the 20s, it really started to catch on in the 30s. The 50s may have been when more white people were using it, but it was around longer.

 

I think it was popularized by the Beatniks of the late 40s and 50s, when it started to enter into mainstream culture.

 

One day, I should put on First Contact... and then put on "Second Contact".

 

One source I found has "Cool" going back to the 1700s. The phrase "cool as cucumber" is found in a poem. Not quite the same usage, but still slang.

 

Yes. What I really meant was, stop trying so hard to be funny, especially with Mariner.

The way the alien infection spread among the crew and turned them, and the look of the alien creature— the way it moved, is what reminded me of R&M.

Overall, I liked the episode, but it wasn’t funny to me. What’s so hard to understand about that? One of the reasons I found the jokes unfunny was because they were obvious, overblown, too reliant on the characters’ delivery or even body language. The finger pointing and “snappy” dialogue was cringe.

Mariner’s frantic speech, scattered thinking, and zaniness, are just not, in and of themselves, funny to me. But interestingly, she provided the only chuckle I got out of the entire episode when she told Boimler she wanted to be his Chadietch.

So, you think that just because the first season has been completely written that the show and it’s characters are not going to evolve past what we saw in the first episode? My guess, and I do say, “guess”, is that they are going to gradually pull way back on Mariner’s (and the rest of the crew’s) “zaniness.” The show doesn’t need to bowl us over with in your face, over the top, “space comedy” in order to be good.

 

Well, different strokes...

 

What phrase in TNG-VOY did you not recognize? XD

Sure, music and movies and books will last. But even if you do a dab nowadays, it's "so 2015" already.
There should be some new words and phrases, and only a few current ones. Someone's slogan was ridiculed for containing the word "malarkey", IIRC

Not to be an addle-plot, but pickthanks spreading banbury stories only give them more balsam. If you brown-study it, Kirk totally was a beard-splitter, and Scotty a chirping-merry borachio. The LD intro is pure gapeseed. Some people here are too deep in the mulligrubbs. Hope we'll see the admiral's roast meat clothes as well.

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/500833/30-excellent-terms-17th-century-slang-dictionary

 

Usually the technobabble.

 

That's phat, yo. Whaddup dawg?

 

Oh, I agree with you that the characters will evolve, and they should. I was just commenting on the comedy/not comedy question.

And from the early impressions by the ShuttlePod Crew at TrekMovie.com episodes 2-4 do turn the manic down a little and the heart up.

 

So casting Keanu as Jonathan Harker in Bram Stoker's Dracula wasn't a terrible mistake then?

 

Bufford: You aren't Seamus McFly. You look like him, though. Especially with that dog-ugly hat.
(laughter)
Bufford: You kin to that hair barber? What's yer name, dude?!
Marty: Eastwood. Clint Eastwood.
(laughter)
Bufford: What kind of stupid name is that?

 

Well, Biff's ancestors were a little special anyway

 

I've actually seen a lot of this reaction, so demographic success LDS? Writer John Jackson Miller:

https://twitter.com/jjmfaraway/status/1291789106247237632?s=20

To get a better viewer reaction, TvTime has the largest sample size of any fan vote aggregator. Lower decks is currently at 8.66/10 and climbing.



Another large viewer voting site, Trakt Tv has it at 74% positive



IMDB, which is often a target of viewer downvoting still rates it a 6.4/10, which is closer to my vote.

 

From Wikipedia:

Marty was still wearing his colorful, Roy Rogers-esque 1950s cowboy outfit, which made him stand out like a sore thumb. Buford later refers to him as a "duded up egg-sucking gutter trash".

Saying he's a "dude" or "duded up" refers to his nice, bright clothes. "Egg-sucking" generally refers to someone with no or bad teeth (who had to get protein from actually sucking an egg) and is a continuation of a thought that his nice teeth must've been dentures, and "gutter trash" just meant a low class person, as Buford considered "Eastwood" to be below his station.

The movie paid special attention to Old West usage of vernacular, as that scene features lots of odd and interesting phrases that are hard to decipher out-of-context. Similar care was taken with the 1950s scenes and some made up phrases for the 2010s.