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  1. Arpy

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    When they remastered TOS for HD years ago with new CG, there were different schools of though as to what the effects should look like. I remember one fan artist who did images of the Enterprise (and maybe shots from “The Doomsday Machine”) that matched color and style closer to the originals. If the ship appeared greener or bluer in different shots in the original 1960’s effects that we’d all known, he would have presented it the same way in the updated effects as well, just clearer for the higher resolution televisions of today. Instead, TOS Remastered went for a more uniform update with newer-looking effects and ships.

    Anyone remember who the artist was or what he called his “TOS Remastered” project? I’d love to look those images up again.
     
  2. USS Jack Riley

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    I remember this project, but not the artist. I saw the link in the Trek Art section. You might have better luck asking this question there. The artist may still be active and see it.
     
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    I don’t recall his name but I’m pretty sure I still have the videos downloaded somewhere still. I’ll have a look for them when I can.
     
  4. Maurice

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    You didn't say my name three times so I didn't materialize immediately. :ouch:

    My efforts from several years ago (and right now :cool:) made no attempt to be faithful to the original visual effects.

    Could you perhaps be thinking of Daren Dochterman's 2009 redo of "The Doomsday Machine"?

     
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    Are you talking about the guy who photo shopped images of un-remastered Trek, inserting things like the Saladin class into space shots, and changing the puppet in Corbomite Maneuver to a pray mantis creature? I remeber that thread, it was from way before I joined.
     
  8. Arpy

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    Yes! That’s it. Dochterman — thanks. I loved that work. Star Trek “Enhanced” he called it. The Enterprise seems more “alive” here than with the dim gray one in TOS Remastered. I so wish he could have done more.
     
  9. Maurice

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    Some weird choices in that.
    • The chunk of tumbling planetary debris that inexplicably stops tumbling and changes trajectory
    • The Enterprise riding weirdly high in the frame as it exits the debris field
    • Space being a lighter shade of black than the burn marks on the Constellation (WTF)
    • Having the Enterprise overtake the Planet Killer which then turns towards them instead of having it come upon them as in the original episode
     
  10. Firebird

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    For a simple proof of concept video, it's still pretty impressive, given that it was done 11 years ago on (probably) consumer-grade rendering software.
     
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  11. Maurice

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    Daren is no amateur. He's been in the biz for ages. He worked on the TMP DE 20 years ago.
     
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    I know who he is, I'm just saying the level of the work he did on his own 11 years ago was pretty good, even with some of the odd choices.
     
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  13. Maurice

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    I'm merely arguing that the choices were odd. Consumer grade software doesn't affect the things I pointed out.
     
  14. Arpy

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    I dunno, it sounds like you’re just arguing. This stuff is hard to produce and sometimes you take a victory and move on. The asteroid changed course? You mean that .5 second long moment that maybe would have taken more time to fix than he had to allocate? The way the Enterprise came upon the planet killer didn’t match how you expected it to? Come on. Overall that’s exemplary work. I love the transporter effect. And I think the ship specifically is far more interesting to me than, again, the dim gray one in Remastered. Seen on my phone especially, on the desktop less so. I would have loved to see what he could do over the run of the entire series, with that time and money and learning curve, just like Remastered.
     
  15. Maurice

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    Nope.

    I put forth that I found those choices odd and explained why.
     
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  16. Maurice

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    re the OP, a former member of the board told me he remembers the user in question:

    I only remember on tbbs as Steve, though he had both his names listed. Was probably active in 05 or so, probably later too.

    One could do some Google fu and try to see if that turns up anything.
     
  17. Michael

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    For a second there I thought the OP might be thinking of this Eden FX test shot of the Enterprise when they were competing against the in-house CBS Digital to get the job of recreating all the effects for the “remastered” version of TOS. I must say, judging from this one clip I kind of preferred their much more faithful approach.
     
  18. Professor Moriarty

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    Fascinating. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that particular test shot before. Some weird stretching of the ship’s registry is going on (look at the top of each letter and number in “NCC-1701” on the starboard warp nacelle compared to the 1966 original), but yeah, this is so much better than what we got in the aughts.
     
  19. valkyrie013

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    Eh.. the Eden one.. just.. If your going to do it.. Improve it.. Don't just recreate a grainy shot.. with another grainy shot.. While I agree that the one they used wasn't as faithful as I'd like, but they done a better job than that dirty shot.
     
  20. Arpy

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    I actually like that a lot, but I don’t think it’s quite faithful. Faithful is how it appeared on your screen — brighter, less gunky hull. Even if only an effect of the television. This is more dark and moody. Not as dark as the ship would be in interstellar space — pitch black — but it has a gothic or submarine-y feel to it. Wish I could see a whole series of that too.