Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x08 - "Broken Pieces"

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Rate Episode 1x08 "Broken Pieces"

  1. 10 - Fenris Rangers

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  1. Verteron

    Verteron Lux in tenebris lucet Premium Member

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    Octagonal Klemperer Rosette

    A five-body version is featured heavily in Niven's Ringworld series as the (artificial) home system of a prominent species called the Puppeteers.
     
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  2. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Admiral Admiral

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    The Romulan race is not the villain in this show, a specific group of Romulans who believe they are saving the galaxy are.
     
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  3. thribs

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    Rather selfish of that captain to not vaporise himself. Leaving all that mess for Rios to clean up.
     
  4. Lonemagpie

    Lonemagpie Writer Admiral

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    Picard episode 8 was... heavy on exposition rather than flowing storytelling but still filled with enough good bits to be another winner- especially all of the Rioses together - nice to see that Starfleet is maintaining the tradition of engineers with unconvincing Scottish accents...
     
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  5. ITDUDE

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    This is it, no more exposition. All cards are on the table. Last two episodes is pure endgame (as in chess metaphor, not Voyager finale)
     
  6. DaveyNY

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    ..."sae fou as a piper" translates from Esperanto as "Crazy as a Piper"

    I think the second part has something to do with talking foolish or crazy and doing so while drunk.

    So essentially I think he was saying, that as far as he knew Rios was ...

    "Crazy as a piper and off drunk talking to himself."

    (perhaps meaning Chris is in a drunken stupor)
     
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  7. Greg Cox

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    I don't think the supernova is supposed to be a mystery. That's just a plot point that was carried over from the 2009 movie, where it was portrayed as a natural phenomenon. And so far nobody on PICARD has indicated that there was anything mysterious about it (as opposed to the Mars Attack). The supernova is relevant because it led to the whole Romulan evacuation crisis, but what caused the supernova is not being presented to us as a mystery.

    The other big mystery is: Who or what attacks civilization who cross a certain a threshold by creating synthetic life?

    As I understand it, it's the not the synths who are the real threat. It's whatever lashes out whenever a species develops synthetic life. (See the analogy to Cochrane inventing the warp drive, thus attracting the attention of the Vulcans.)
     
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  8. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Admiral Admiral

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    Could it be that the thing that lashes out always comes from within?

    "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,... But in ourselves, that we are underlings."
    :vulcan:
     
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  9. Tuskin38

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    Saying that doesn't mean he agrees with the Federation's decision to abandon them. He just saw it coming.

    The Twelve Colonies in NuBSG is a 4 star system, 2 Binary pairs orbiting a each other. Not exactly 8 but still
    https://galactica.fandom.com/wiki/Cyrannus_star_system
     
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  10. Verteron

    Verteron Lux in tenebris lucet Premium Member

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    Maybe you can't fire a phaser set to kill on a 24th century starship unless the ship is at yellow alert or something. In the 23rd century it produced an alarm. In the 24th century the ship's computer can disable phasers, PADDs and so on (as it did with the items Belinghoff Ramussen tried to steal). Stands to reason it could just turn off the lethal settings. But a phaser on stun at short range is still lethal. Valeris executed Burke and Samno using this very technique.
     
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    Verteron Lux in tenebris lucet Premium Member

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    Yeah although natural origins, it's not particularly 'ordered'. The 'Verse in Firefly is similar, one supergiant star, four main sequence stars and seven dwarf stars, and dozens of planets.
     
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  12. AlanC9

    AlanC9 Commodore Commodore

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    You are quite literally the only person I have seen interpret the show this way. Doesn't prove you wrong, but it shouldn't fill you with confidence.
     
  13. Zod

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    I loved the episode. It did a lot of explaining but didn't feel forced to me. It's fascinating to imagine galactic events from hundreds of thousands of years ago. Hell on the Expanse they are dealing with billions of years ago.

    The only thing I absolutely did not like was Seven just appearing out of nowhere. They could have done a minute or two of her infiltrating the Cube. It did not have to be much. But she just shows up.
     
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  14. DaveyNY

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    Perhaps the homing beacon Elnor activated is also a transporter lock device?
    So she just beamed in from her ship.
     
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  15. Bollie74

    Bollie74 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Tkon Empire?
     
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    Bollie74 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    In the Una McCormack book she pushes him hard to keep working on his android designs (Geordie is pushing him to focus on building the non sentient androids used on Utopia Planitia). She also suggested the neutronic cloning if memory serves...
     
  17. Mark 2000

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    He clearly meant it in reference to Picard being hunted down by romulans. His exact words about helping them was “no good deed goes unpunished”. He had actively told Picard not to bother and was now rubbing it in that it was biting him in the ass.

    If that’s how you need to misinterpret what I’m saying in order to feel good about this show then feel free.
     
  18. cooleddie74

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    The Progenitors might also qualify. The ones who saved the Native American tribes from Earth and relocated them to the planet with the asteroid deflector.
     
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  19. Mark 2000

    Mark 2000 Captain Captain

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    Yeah, It took a long time for the general population to accept TOS was a pretty sexist show even though I’d been saying it forever. A lot of people still don’t admit to it. I’ve had a lot of other opinions I’ve been vindicated on in the long run. I’m very patient.
     
  20. Lakenheath 72

    Lakenheath 72 Commodore Commodore

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    From Wir An Leed (Scots Language idioms, https://www.scots-online.org/grammar/idioms.php)

    ''Sae fou as a piper" - As drunk as a piper
    "Aff the fang" - not in the mood, out of humor
    "Sae fou as a piper an' awfu aff the fang" - As drunk as a piper and very not in the mood

    So, we have a warning system on a planet in a engineered system created by a species who was wiped out by synthetic lifeforms. Something is not right here. If you are being wiped out, would you be putting resources into creating such an elaborate warning or would you be finding a safe place to protect yourselves, ride out the storm, and emerge when things are better? I am thinking here of Ilos, from Mass Effect, where the Protheans created a shelter where they were put into stasis to wait out the invasion by the Reapers. It seems that none of the Romulans bothered to actually research the warnng, they just accepted it as fact, which does fit into their cultural psychology of fear and mistrust. How would the other galactic powers respond to the warning?
     
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