Spoilers Episode 7 "Nepenthe"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by NCC-73515, Feb 28, 2020.

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Rate 1x07 Nepenthe

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  1. Gonzo

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    It's no surprise that Troi would not be able to sense her, no matter how advanced Soji may be there is no way they could replicate human thought itself, without that Troi won't be able to hear them.
     
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  2. Tarek71

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    With the Stargazer Dr on there, they may kill off Crusher. She was killed by...whomever killed her.
     
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  3. The Old Mixer

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    That's Ninja'ing.

    Brian Brophy?
     
  4. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Admiral Premium Member

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    Didn't Troi sense Data's anger in Descent?
     
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  5. Gonzo

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    No idea havent watched any TNG in decades.

    I suppose its possible but Troi would be sensing the chip in Data which is sort of not the same thing.

    Compare that to Soji who does have emotions but Deanna will not detect anything, so whatever it is that enables Soji to experience emotion is very different to the chip Soong made for Data.

    Did Deanna ever sense emotion in Lore, if not it would indicate that the same functionality was finally perfected in Soji.
     
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  6. Turtletrekker

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    She did.
     
  7. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Admiral Premium Member

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    It seems to me that Dahj & Soji are far more advanced than Data & Lore, so their "real" emotions, like everything else about their biological nature, would be more human-like.

    I would find it strange that Troi couldn't sense Soji at all when she could sense something being generated by a chip.
     
  8. Gonzo

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    Perhaps not human like because that was probably what sent Lore off the deep end in the first place.

    More along the lines of a truly integrated/embedded instruction set distributed throughout her body rather than just a chip which will overload locally as we saw with Data at first.

    The issue was perhaps not the emotion itself but the type of signal/interface that was used.

    Would Deanna have sensed Soji if she had been standing outside the room when Narek sprung his trap, her emotions could be more low level in nature and can only be sensed when stressed.
     
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  9. KennyB

    KennyB I have spoken............ Moderator

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    I am sure there will be a reason.........I am willing to wait for it. We aren't even supposed to know THIS for another week! ;-)
     
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  10. Gov Kodos

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    Maybe, she's just getting old. Like the knees just not doing their thing first thing in the morning.
     
  11. KennyB

    KennyB I have spoken............ Moderator

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    Just curious has anyone above the rank of CADET seen this or seen it being discussed anywhere else? Maybe I am jaded.........
     
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  12. Gov Kodos

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    Nope.
     
  13. Campe

    Campe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I did find one Reddit thread where they said it was released. It apparently was pulled pretty quickly. But my search (which was just a few minutes) didn't come up with any real details on the episode.
     
  14. Uhura's Song

    Uhura's Song Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Not a mod, but that was not promoting anything in my view. He just mentioned it in reference to watching episode 7. It is not like there was a link or he said how he did it.
     
  15. KennyB

    KennyB I have spoken............ Moderator

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    Much like the Genesis planet.....it’s just best to not mention.
     
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  16. KennyB

    KennyB I have spoken............ Moderator

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    I find that a bit odd. I’ve looked all the usual spots too and I admin a Picard group with close to 30k people. Like you said too, no plot points other than Deanna not sensing Soji.
     
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  17. TPezz

    TPezz Commander Red Shirt

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    I smell a rat :vulcan:

    Nothing that anyone has said so far on any medium gives any story details besides a “it’s not as good as ep 6”.
     
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  19. KennyB

    KennyB I have spoken............ Moderator

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    Yeah.......Like I said maybe I'm just a grumpy old fart but it's hard to contain something like this..........Not even people TALKING about it? I did find a couple of posts on reddit saying Amazon auto deleted from their devices.....Just seems fishy. There's lots of folks in Japan.......
     
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  20. The Wormhole

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    Not even a Google news search is turning anything up about this.
     
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