Should Paramount digitally alter the TOS Enterprise?

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  1. Morpheus 02

    Morpheus 02 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Has anyone any modern fan versions of updating the TOS effects?
     
  2. Dukhat

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    *cough, cough* TOS-R *cough cough*
     
  3. FederationHistorian

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    Upgrades happen. They can be minor. They can be major. And they can be reversed if they’re not liked.
     
  4. NewHeavensNewEarth

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    Our HD TVs are just able to see the TOS Enterprise better now. ;)
     
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  5. Lord Garth

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    They shouldn't update TOS yet again. It's a slippery slope. The version of the TOS Enterprise we're seeing in Discovery and Picard won't be the last revision they'll ever do. Are they supposed to change the Enterprise in TOS every time the design is retroactively updated? It's more trouble than it's worth.

    People should be smart enough to know this is what the ship looked like the 1960s, its look was updated for the purposes of DSC and PIC, and that was that.
     
  6. F. King Daniel

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    Imagine them doing this with the Discoprise bridge:eek:
     
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  7. Ralphis

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    I gave your post a 'Like' for that quote. Hahaha... most of my dumb fanwanky posts here over the years have mostly been due to a slow day at work. Couldn't help but get a chuckle out of this.

    But personally, I'm not sure if it's worth it to digitally alter the old episodes. But any future Trek set in the 2250s or 2260s will probably be better off looking at the Disco Enterprise's interior and exterior for inspiration.
     
  8. BillJ

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    If what we are seeing on Discovery is supposed to be an upgrade, it might well be time to chuck the HDTV's.
     
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  9. BillJ

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    Whoever did this has some mad fucking skills.
     
  10. The Wormhole

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    The reason we were never supposed to see it on TV was because Paramount wanted the Sovereign class to be a movie exclusive ship and they feared seeing if it were on TV, no one would go to the theatres to see a movie with it. But it's been eighteen years since the last movie to feature the Enterprise E was released, and in that time there have been three other movies that haven't used it at all. I guess they can safely show it on TV now with no risk to the movies.
    The Galaxy class ship displayed does have 1701-D written on it just outside the main shuttlebay.
     
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  11. 1001001

    1001001 Serial Canon Violator Moderator

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    I say they CGI the shit out of the whole thing. Go Full Tarkin.

    We could have musical numbers, hardcore nudity...whatever we want.

    It would be glorious.
     
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  12. XCV330

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    See what Doug Drexler did for Star Trek Continues. He's talked about it pretty extensively. It wasn't an update but a way to get the CGI for STC to look like the original model looked under the lighting conditions of the TOS. It got a little wierd in the final episode but all in all he did a great. job.
     
  13. Boris Skrbic

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    Yes, but I’m saying that’s one curiosity created because of the idea that maybe the VFX won’t hold up to HD (whereas the new ship shots are poor CGI) and I’d also argue the year was, you know, 2006. Special editions were still a thing back then: they’re not something to think about in 2020 if anyone is paying attention to the way 4K releases are made of theatrical cuts (because many SEs were done in HD, like that of Superman), and then it’s not like anyone’s really asking for an improved version of George Lucas’s SEs. A director can get away with a “final cut”, but that’s about it.
     
  14. Dukhat

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    When CBS made TOS-R, I was initially excited about it because at the time, I was in ‘things need to be changed’ mode. Over time, however, I’ve changed my tune and now feel that even if it was a necessity to update the VFX for a high-definition transfer, that the new effects should have been visually indistinguishable from the original. Doing what they did took the charm and nostalgia away from the original look and feel of TOS, in my opinion. I now wish it had never been done at all.
     
  15. Paul755

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    I’d prefer the reverse and have them remove the Discoprise and insert the Enterprise.
     
  16. BillJ

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    When I watch on Blu-ray, I just toggle on the original effects. Most of the CGI was pretty substandard, even at the time.
     
  17. Dukhat

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    I don't have the blurays; I've just watched it on broadcast TV (which shows TOS-R), so I don't have the option to toggle back to the old VFX.
     
  18. Boris Skrbic

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    Besides, the menus are of the overanimated clunky variety and the authoring doesn’t include saving the playback position. I wish they’d do a proper 2020s release making TOS-R nothing more than an extra.
     
  19. BillJ

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    Depending on one's financial state and love of TOS, I found the Blu-ray's to be a great buy. I've owned mine for ten years now. I believe you can get the entire series for around $50.
     
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  20. XCV330

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    I don't know why but blu-rays are seem far more scratch resistant than DVDs