Spoilers New Picard TV Series and Litverse Continuity (may contain TV show spoilers)

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by chrinFinity, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. Campe

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  2. CaptainXaviOfEarth

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    That makes sense for a nostalgia brand. Is the ‘Star Trek Universe’ license exclusively the new 1701?
     
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    My company licenses the 2d20 format, and are doing the Ninja Turtles one.
     
  4. JD

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    Are you working on Star Trek Adventures too?
     
  5. CaptainXaviOfEarth

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    Nope. We don’t have anything Star Trek, but I’m going to Vegas in May for the licensing show, so will see what’s available. We’ve licensed a few playing card formats and a more Pandemic-like tabletop format, so maybe. Depends.

    Having our narratives canon is important to us. We got that with Nickelodeon for Ninja Turtles, and even with Sonic the Hedgehog (though we scrapped that). It looks like Star Trek isn’t a fit.
     
  6. Dayton Ward

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    I'm not sure what you're asking.
     
  7. CaptainXaviOfEarth

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    For merchandise licensed under the new STU branding, I was under the impression they’re completely removing the old TOS designs. If you want to use Kirk in anything, it needs to be him in a retconned uniform (with that left overhanging collar) and on the retconned 1701. Is this the case?
     
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    Are there separate licenses for TOS, and the new CBS stuff? I believe that is the question.
     
  9. Dayton Ward

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    That would be news to me. For example, I’m reviewing art for TOS comics that won’t be out for months, and everything is as you’d expect it to look.
     
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    The general rule in the past is that things in the books and comics look the way they did in the show they're based on. Any other time they changed something like this, they still used the old designs in the stuff based on the show where the old design was used, I don't see why that would suddenly change now.
     
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    I assume you mean the Year Five comic, which I understand is a TOS comic, hence keep that aesthetic.

    But let's say...

    If IDW wanted to do a brand crossover comic of (say) TOS and DS9, they would need to use the new Discovery designs for the 1701 and crew uniforms?
     
  12. Dayton Ward

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    No, I don’t see that happening.
     
  13. Damian

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    Yeah, I think that was pretty clear with two novels in particular. "The Enterprise War" was officially a Discovery novel so the Enterprise on the cover was based on what we saw in Discovery.

    On the other hand "The Antares Maelstrom" was an original series novel and the Enterprise depicted there was based on the original series.

    CBS owns the whole shebang. I know I've read some comments questioning why Discovery depicted an 'altered' Enterprise from the original series depiction. But that was just a design decision. CBS owns it all. If Discovery had wanted to recreate the original series designs to the last detail there is nothing stopping them from a legal standpoint. I may not particularly care for some of their design decisions, but it's a creative decision, not a legal decision, and one they have every right to make.
     
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    CBD isn't stupid despite what youtube edge Lords say. They know there is a massive market for TOS and I highly doubt they have any plans to remove all imagery of TOS from there products. It's taking the whole corporate fascist angle to ridiculous extremes. If anything they may rebrand TOS merch like boardgames as classic editions and also bring out products with discovery style art work for those who want it.
     
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    Wait 'til these people hear that Hayden Christensen's face appears in modern rereleases of Return of the Jedi!
     
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    You'll continue to see original series designs on original series products. I don't think that will ever change.

    Star Wars is a whole other matter. But I don't see CBS going down that path as far as replacing the original with new on original merchandise.
     
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    I'm not accusing the writers in this thread of withholding information because they may truly be in the dark, but I spoke to Clint Hayashi yesterday, and Star Trek brand licensing and merchandise management has already begun the move over to Nickelodeon. They white label themselves as "ViacomCBS Consumer Products" but it's the Nickelodeon offices in London. Even Pocket Books is moving to Viacom, and they publish the books talked about in this thread! Again, this seems so substantial I find it difficult to believe it's not been internally discussed with writers signed to the publisher.
     
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    Um, Simon & Schuster, which Pocket Books is an imprint of, has been owned by Viacom all along. Also, Trek books have been published since 2010 by Gallery Books, a different imprint.

    Nonetheless, S&S isn't "moving" to Viacom, it's been part of Viacom all along. In fact, there are rumors that the merger of CBS with Viacom will mean that Viacom will sell S&S off.
     
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    What would be the implications of that? A new publisher or would the license stay with S&S and possibly a move away from keeping to the continuity of the shows (hopefully some more litverse for all the fans, and when I get round to it :hugegrin:) or is it just that the license would stay with S&S, not owned by ViaCom but still on condition of not contradicting the canon (within reason just as now)
     
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    I meant to type Nickelodeon, not Viacom. Pocket Books is now a Nickelodeon managed brand, or being split up and part of it is Nickelodeon, for licensed books / tie ins. They’ve hired an executive from DC Thompson to run it.