I think there’s something being lost in these discussions. For some folks, myself included, this first episode of Picard serves to show what, in our eyes, Discovery could have been. I was as giddy with excitement leading up to the premiere of DSC as I was for PIC. But Discovery let me down, much as Into Darkness and Beyond let me down after I initially loved ST09. Saying that isn’t “hating” on anything, and neither is comparing our disappointments to Picard now. Part of what a lot of us are feeling today is relief—relief that this show seems to get us. And I understand that Discovery gets some other folks, and that’s great. It’s an amazing time to be a Star Trek fan. That doesn’t mean we have to like all of it, or can’t mention the parts we don’t like or how we wish they had been handled instead. I think that’s quite literally what fandom is about and always has been. IDIC.
Intriguing. I love all three pilotsfrom my era of Trek (ENT is a whole new era stalling at the start from a certain point of view.) but would have no problem comparing them with each other. (Emissary takes first place overall.)
No offense, but in what universe is Discovery considered a standalone? The very first scene is a Klingon mentioning Donatu V, Sto-Vo-Kor and Honor. It is practically shaking you going "we're Star Trek!!!"
I like dsc. I like pic. You really should give pic a chance. Pic being good takes nothing away from dsc.
Any was ahead of ifs time it aged so well. Honestly, three times a day reading the anger mess that is social media, the phrase ‘what’s a Nubian? Bitch you almost made me laugh’ goes through my head. I mean Smith hit the wacky baccy too hard sunshine later, but Amy is decent.
You do have to wonder where he is though. It's not like he was destroyed, and if they had access to him, why couldn't they have just used him for research. They said that they couldn't replicate Data's design, but they had access to a functioning positronic brain anyway. Even though he had some problems, he still worked fine.
You're being really weird about this. Understanding you have issues with the time and expense involved in watching this show, you seem to spend a LOT of time in the Picard forums and go out of your way to mention you're not watching the show at the drop of a hat.
I don't think the quote was about him, but honestly it's valid there too. Don't get me wrong, I'm E X T R E M E L Y glad he's left Trek in his rear view mirror, but from the interviews I've seen in the years after ENT ended, he and Braga were the only two gatekeepers who kept it from being so much worse (apparently, UPN was very serious about that Boy Band of the Week concept to attract the teeny boppers watching Smallville and Buffy on the WB at the time ). He was basically the Severus Snape of Star Trek, a good guy taking the L to keep Trek watchable. I doubt anyone will name their children Rick Brannon after two of the bravest men they know, however But in all seriousness, Berman did have a big part to play in the success of what Trek was in the 80s and 90s. Should he have been been writing half the episodes for Enterprise? Not at all. But he wasn't the evilest evil to ever evil and I don't think he deliberately tanked the franchise unlike certain other show runners on HBO who shall remain nameless.
To get back to the episode. We saw b4 in a drawer. We know androids and synths are part of the story. I still think b4 will come into play before the end of the season. He wasn’t shown for just fanservice. He has a role to play
It's views on...erm..fluidity...when it comes to sexual orientation, where problematic even back then. the thought to get a lesbian straight if she just met the right man.... look, I hope KS didn't intend that message, but...well...his other films - including Tusk and Yoga Hosers - were better
Of course he is. When we last saw him, he was the Federation's foremost living expert in cybernetics and that was over thirty years ago. Frankly, I find it a little ridiculous that the "no one has ever been able to recreate Data!" bit is still a thing in this timeframe. It's pretty implausible, but I can go with it since it's literally necessary for the premise of the show to exist.
That may have been his role. To show how serious the Federation ban on Synths was that they essentially killed a simpleton in their fear.
So, not Lal. I wanted it to be Lal. Looks like Data's coming back. Bet they give him a different body with a new face. That was great. Especially as for some reason I was nowhere as pumped for it as I have been for Discovery. More please. Now.