Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by bbjeg, Apr 6, 2014.

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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

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  1. JD

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    I didn't realize it was that expensive, I had assumed it was fairly cheap since quite a bit of stuff was there.
     
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    One thing I respect about Radcliffe is that he has really gone out of his way to choose roles that distance himself from Harry Potter.
     
  5. Christopher

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    I'd be amazed if he hadn't. Actors who are mega-famous for a single early role often spend the rest of their careers trying to prove they can do something different. Like how Mark Hamill escaped the shadow of Luke Skywalker by voicing villains in animation. Or how former child stars often take really adult, sexy, racy roles to change their image.
     
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    It's hard to tell, even from the original article. They may not have reproduced the entirety of his comments. But I think he's saying it's too idealized, as part of his broader criticism of superhero movies making their heroes too powerful so they can achieve things too easily, rather than being the underdogs his films tend to center on. Which I think demonstrates that maybe he's not really familiar with the films, or with the general Marvel tradition of screwed-up heroes whose personal problems are as extreme as their superpowers.

    Still, I'm starting to realize that people like Gilliam and Scorsese have a point. His interview with IndieWire was primarily about The Man who Killed Don Quixote and Gilliam's battles with the studio and the way blockbusters are eating up so much money and talent that there's little left for small or medium-sized films, but the only part anyone's talking about is his Black Panther comment. On the other hand, his comment does seem pretty tone-deaf.
     
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    I think he does, but his issue is that the politics overshadowed the artistic piece being objectively critiqued. Black Panther was groundbreaking in some ways, but it's also a pretty formulaic movie and suffers from the same issues that most marvel films suffer from. I think if you were to ask Gilliam what he thought of Spider-Man Homecoming or Endgame, he'd think they were bullshit too.
     
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    I saw that yesterday, that is hilarious.:guffaw:
     
  12. Marsden

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    I hope* that we can get an Avengers movie where Wasp is in charge. When I was reading The Avengers most consistently she was the chairman. Do the MCU Avengers even have chairmen? I haven't noticed them really saying anyone was "in charge".

    *see what I did there?
     
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    I think Cap was probably the closes to being in charge, but I don't remember anything being made official.
     
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    In Age of Ultron, Tony said that Steve was the boss and that he just paid for everything and made everyone look cooler. In Endgame, it seemed pretty clear to me that Natasha was running things.
     
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    It was pretty clear in Ultron and Civil War that Steve was at least the field commander.
     
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    The end of AoU pretty much has Cap as the leader. Even in CA: CW, Stark acquiesced to Steve more than anyone else in the Accords matter, as if an ultimate decision would go through him / he would be the final word on Avenger support (even though each member had to sign it).
     
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    T'challa should be the next leader. With Wakanda now at the forefront of defending the Earth.
     
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    Captain Marvel's the boss. Black Panther just pays for everything and makes everyone look cool.
     
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    Ah! I see what you did there. ;)
     
  20. Christopher

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    No, T'Challa pays for everything, and Shuri makes everyone look cool.
     
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