Spoilers Terminator: Dark Fate Review and Discussion

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by David cgc, Nov 3, 2019.

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Grade Terminator: Dark Fate

  1. A+ “Come with me if you want to live.”

    1 vote(s)
    1.7%
  2. A

    6 vote(s)
    10.3%
  3. A-

    5 vote(s)
    8.6%
  4. B+ “I’ll be back.”

    13 vote(s)
    22.4%
  5. B

    8 vote(s)
    13.8%
  6. B-

    6 vote(s)
    10.3%
  7. C+ “Chill out, dickwad.”

    5 vote(s)
    8.6%
  8. C

    2 vote(s)
    3.4%
  9. C-

    4 vote(s)
    6.9%
  10. D+ “All you know how to create is death and destruction!”

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. D

    2 vote(s)
    3.4%
  12. D-

    1 vote(s)
    1.7%
  13. F “I know now why you cry.”

    5 vote(s)
    8.6%
  1. Spot261

    Spot261 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I have also never heard of Tetminator.
     
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  2. CorporalCaptain

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    Sounds kinda like a head shrinker??? :shrug:

    OK.
     
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  3. ISS-Magnum

    ISS-Magnum Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Well, it's pretty simple.

    Skynet was created by U.S. military.

    Legion was cyber warfare project created by Fuerzas Armadas de México.

    It's my headcanon now.
     
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  4. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Also Legion did not initiate a Nuclear exchange.

    It took away electricity from America/Mexico, and the other nuclear powers used nukes to contain that situation poorly.

    Was Legion originally content to regress the people close by back to agrarians? (Which would have decimated the population, as the 17th century, cannot support a 21st century population.)

    Almost probably not.
     
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  5. Tosk

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    How did it do that? What causes the airliner to crash? (Serious question, I don't recall.)
     
  6. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Computers control most technology, and computers definitely control power plants. Legion was the antivirus for everything important in Mexico.

    Autoimmune.
     
  7. saddestmoon

    saddestmoon Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    The tentacled ones were earlier version Rev-7s - which could split in two, but not shape-change. And they had the tentacles protruding from their backs - unlike the later Rev-9s.
     
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  8. saddestmoon

    saddestmoon Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I read somewhere (may have even been a poster on this thread earlier) that if a dog was raised with a Terminator, from birth / puppydom - then it would be comfortable / used to a Terminator owner, so to speak (because it doesn't know any different).

    Its an issue for most dogs however when a dog encounters a terminator, as they can't make sense of what they are sensing (hearing the terminators servos, higher pitched frequencies, etc), and haven't been raised by a terminator owner- (and they have already have canine knowledge of what a human is (by smell, sounds, movements, instinctive association, etc).

    Not a bad theory, I think.
     
  9. Tosk

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    Or ten minutes will do it. Enrique's dog in T2 is comfortable around Uncle Bob.
     
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  10. Pubert

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    yeah they just did the same thing with this movie. While terminator salvation wasn’t great at least they were moving the franchise forward. Would have liked to see Skynet defeated. Not going to happen now. The franchise is dead.
     
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  11. Spot261

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    That's what we thought about the T800.
     
  12. The Borgified Corpse

    The Borgified Corpse Admiral Admiral

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    It's the sad tragedy of our time that this is how Hollywood works. Always.

    Which kinda sounds like it was part of what the screenwriters of Terminator Genisys were trying to get at. Shame that they couldn't have made their idea, ya know, COMPREHENSIBLE!

    I'm firmly of the belief that Terminator Salvation was the only genuine way forward for the franchise. Everything else is spinning their wheels. Of the 14,000,605 possible timelines, the one where Terminator Salvation got a sequel is the only one where this franchise actually matters at all post-T2.

    One bit that confused me: Why was the Rev-9 killing Border Patrol agents? He was already dressed as a Border Patrol agent himself, so killing one of his "comrades" would only draw unwanted attention from the other agents that would slow him down from killing Dani. Sure, there was one agent who saw him climbing on top of the cages and shouted "Hey!" but she still wasn't in a position to stop him or even really slow him down.
     
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  13. ISS-Magnum

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    1. For Coolness Factor.
    2. For Great Justice.
    3. Blood for the Blood God.
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    You name it.
     
  14. Farscape One

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    They were getting in his way, which is a very Michael Myers thing to do. (Myers mostly only killed his target, someone who was a way to get to his target, or if you got in his way.) And since his character was a basis for THE TERMINATOR, it is one thing that has been consistent throughout all films.
     
  15. JD

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    We already saw the defeat of Skynet in T2.
    Something just struck me that adds an extra bit of tragedy to John's death, at that point Skynet was already stopped, so there was no need for him to die since he he never would have lead the Resistance.
     
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  16. Noname Given

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    ^^^
    Believe it or not, that may be a point they were attempting to make - IE It was a different timeline in more ways than one from the original one where John Connor lead the Resistence to the defeat of Skynet.
     
  17. The Borgified Corpse

    The Borgified Corpse Admiral Admiral

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    The original films were able to make things look cool while also having them make sense within the story.

    But they wouldn't have gotten in his way if he hadn't started killing them. If he hadn't caught their attention, they most likely would have ignored him because they needed to secure all of the escaping detainees. He's being a very ineffective infiltration unit.

    One minor irritation for me at the beginning of the film-- The whole sequence in Guatemala was so idyllic that I assumed it was a dream. Yes, it becomes a nightmare when the T-800 shoots John, but it evokes Sarah's dream sequences about the nuclear blast from Terminator 2. Even after John Connor was killed, it took me several beats to understand that this was supposed to have been what literally happened and that this was actually how John died.
     
  18. Farscape One

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    I think that is a matter of us seeing through her eyes. Those last moments before John was killed probably felt like a paradise to her, so the scene reflects her memory. Human memory is an intetesting thing.
     
  19. CorporalCaptain

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    The slow motion? Yeah, I agree. It created that dreamlike effect confusingly and unnecessarily.
     
  20. Tenacity

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    Big thing that took me out of the moment was how did Sarah know to be on that section of freeway at that time? Sarah is given texts on when terminators arrive, but she obviously wasn't there when the Rev9 arrived. There's no suggestion that she was somehow tracking the Rev9 from it's arrival.

    Does anyone know why she knows to appear on that freeway?