The weekly WATCHMEN episode sum-up

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  1. crookeddy

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  2. Professor Zoom

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    I don't give a fuck, actually, what a bunch of basement dwellers do on IMDB. It's not particularly a strong data point.

    The only data point I do care about is how much am I enjoying the show... and that's about 90 out of 10 Dr. Manhattan Dicks. I think it's great. I thought this past Sunday's episode was wonderful. Jean Smart is the fucking bomb, I can't wait to watch her and Regina King.

    Now that the haters have hated on it, I wonder if they will move on or keep reminding everyone how much they hate something and desperately try and convince others they too should hate it.

    [rant] What the fuck is wrong with comic book nerds? The thing they love is THE dominate genre right now. THE biggest money maker in the world. H B fucking O is doing a comic book tv show. And yet, they fucking bitch and moan. They whine and complain because Marty Scorcese has an opinion and they fucking can't handle it. For fuck's sake, what more do you want? Dates to the prom!? [/rant]
     
  3. crookeddy

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    Nerd rage isn't just a made up thing.
     
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    Some people get a little snowflakey when it comes to depicting American atrocities, especially those that involve black people in America.

    Now throw on top of that, showing consequences of those atrocities, calling the show Watchmen, and having it be a sequel with not much connection to the original story, and you have a recipe for incel outrage.

    They're very active on the internet and have become adept at making it seem that a show (or movie) is less popular than it actually is. I don't trust any of these sites and I doubt very much that HBO does either, which is after all, most important.
     
  5. crookeddy

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    Are you sure these are incels? I think these are MAGA trolls this time.
     
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  7. Professor Zoom

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    Did I say it was?
    Just because it's not a made up thing, doesn't make it any less entitled.

    Screw them. It looks like it has a lot of connections to me.

    HBO knows exactly how many people actually watch. I suspect it's doing quite well for them.
     
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    The third episode finally hit a lot of the right notes for me. I am really curious to see Laurie's backstory in coming episodes. What has happened in the intervening years since the original series? I am starting to like the idea of this show being a separate story told in the Watchmen universe rather than a direct sequel to the comic. It is working much better than the Doomsday Clock. Laurie's monologue throughout and the final scene with the wink (?maybe?) from Dr. Manhattan have been real highlights of the series so far.
     
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    How Watchmen Designed a Superhero Sex Toy

    This post contains spoilers for Episode 3 of Watchmen.

    Sunday’s episode of Watchmen introduced, or rather reintroduced, FBI agent Laurie Blake, aka Laurie Juspeczyk and the second Silk Spectre in the original graphic novel, here played by Jean Smart. Laurie was once romantically involved with Dr. Manhattan, but she hastens to show everyone she’s not the same girl she was back then—which is why it’s such a surprise when, toward the end of the episode, she opens her briefcase and pulls out … a big blue phallus, reminiscent of her big blue ex, who’s currently in exile on Mars. Slate talked to Lila Byock, a supervising producer/writer on Watchmen and co-writer of this episode (“She Was Killed by Space Junk”), about the mythology of Dr. Manhattan’s genitals, the prop’s resemblance to a Jeff Koons sculpture, and whether commissioning it violated HBO’s human resources handbook.
     
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    There’s a weird dissonance in this show where half the show lives in a world of cops and extreme race relations and the other half lives in a world of superheroes and magic.

    All Incels are MAGAs but not all MAGAs are Incels. MAGAs who are getting laid are by definition not Incels.
     
  12. Guy Gardener

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    I wouldn't go that far.

    You've seen both genders who are upset with their choices in mate.

    A one night stand with a convenient moron, turns into 20 years of child rearing.

    Besides, there's nothing to stop a marriage from going sexless, especially if there is hatred and resentment.
     
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    According to Petey- pedia, in story, the, uh, device was a "gift" from Daniel Drieberg from after their relationship went sour.

    The Petey-pedia entries have provided lots of interesting pieces of information. For instance, Night Owl and the Comedienne (formerly Silk Spectre II) were captured in 1995 for violating the Keene act after successfully stopping Timothy McVeigh from bombing the government building in Oklahoma City.
     
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    Another interesting thing that I read online, but I haven't gone back to the episode to time it to be certain, is that after Laurie finished her message to Doctor Manhattan, the booth said that it would take 44 seconds for the message to reach Mars. Apparently, the car fell from the sky 45 seconds later.
     
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    Incels are a specific kind of MAGA who blame feminism for their inability to sex. There are plenty of racists who have no problem sexing who would hate this show just as much.

    Of course racist assholes hate this show, racist assholes are the villain! The protagonist is a strong black woman raising three white children who her husband tells heaven doesn’t exist. The show is designed to anger Trumpers!
     
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    I find myself thinking of Andy Sipowicz in NYPD Blue when watching this show. Something about that moral grey zone as a police officer inhabited by Angela. The race relation stuff in that regard.

    Haven’t caught up latest episode, but looks like ozy is getting increasingly into the unnecessary grim from what I have read. I hope not...it’s been pushing the limit, but there is a point where grim just shuts down my interest in a thing,
     
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    This show continues to present a very interesting world that is not just different from ours, but also pretty different from the world shown in the source material.

    But the show manages to still keep at least one foot planted firmly in the world of the original story. In episode 4 we get a discussion of Laurie's history as told to Angela by Petey. e even get short clips from the movie showing the Comedian and the original Silk Spectre inserted.

    We also get the introduction of Lady Treiu, a new character I think. She is a trillionaire who, it appears, will play a key role. I was intrigued by her and the clever way she gets that family to sell their house and property to her on the spot, after she just shows up at the couple's house. How could a couple who had been unsuccessfully trying to get pregnant, turn down their "own" baby plus 5 million dollars.

    But Lady Trieu's daughter may be even more interesting. She has weird memories of a life in Viet Nam that predate her birth. She might be a clone of her "mother."

    And speaking of clones, Viedt's pulling those clone fetuses out of that pond and throwing some of them back was bizarre as hell. There is speculation that he could be imprisoned on the moon. Not sure about that, but it does seem that he is a prisoner in an isolated place.

    So we get definitive proof that Angela is the ancestor of the family we saw in the show's opening scenes in the Tulsa massacre.

    Anxious to see what it is that Will has done that he thinks will be seen as a betrayal by Angela.

    Really am liking the way the show is slowly rolling out it's secrets in most intriguing ways.
     
  18. JirinPanthosa

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    It seemed pretty clear to me the guy was trying to design a suit that would allow him to survive a catapult trip from the moon to Earth.
     
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    The peteypedia puts Hollis Mason in a worse light than I suppose I remembered him from, but some of it could be chalked up to the times he lived in. Honestly the peteypedia doesn't really put Petey (is he lubeman?) in a good light, either.

    I need to find my old copy of the graphic novel. I can't remember if Hollis Mason knew that Hooded Justice came close to killing Comedian. He may have only known some sort of altercation happened between the two of them and Silk Spectre, without knowing what had went down. As they keep exploring the original watchmen in this way, especialy Hooded justice, I am curious if they show Captain Metropolis. Like Silhouette and Dollar Bill, he barely got a mention in Snyder's movie, but if Hollis Mason was right, he was important to Hooded Justice, and unlike the rest of of the first generation, he stayed active trying to form Crimebusters in the 70s.
     
  20. Mr. Adventure

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    I hadn’t seen any of the promo materials for this if they exist but it sure has been surprising. I’m still trying to wrap my head around all of it but it’s not what I expected. I’m kind of surprised by the lack of buzz around it at least in my usual haunts online and not.

    Between this and Legion never thought I’d be interested in Jean Smart. Guess there’s more to her than Designing Women.