Donny’s Late TOS Movie Era Interiors

Discussion in 'Fan Art' started by Donny, Jan 25, 2017.

  1. Firebird

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    Looks like a misdrawn hammer.
     
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  2. Lt. Washburn

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    These look really great Donny. If you wanted to go outside canon for a bit, you might design a slightly refined version of this. A standard phaser that complements this assault phaser. Same overall shapes, but without the gun-like detailing on the grip and the magazine-style power pack. Slightly smaller cowling without the vents. Perhaps some TOS style color, etc. What do you think?
     
  3. Maurice

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    Safety?
     
  4. aridas sofia

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    That is the central question of all these hand phasers. If there is not a deflector of some kind that protects the user from radiation, heat, and most of all, accidentally slipping and getting a finger in front of the emitter - particularly with the phaser one - then these things have to be pure fantasy guns without any footing in reality whatsoever.

    I think they interface with the permitted user - allowing use, protecting them from the gun itself, and providing targeting assistance. No safety needed. The whole thing is a safety.
     
  5. Maurice

    Maurice Snagglepussed Admiral

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    I still think you want a safety because intention is important.
     
  6. David cgc

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    The Art of Star Trek had an unused version of the assassin’s rife from the end of TUC that had a Starfleet phaser as its core.

    ETA: And I just realized I totally misread your post. Whoops.
     
  7. Donny

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    I've already started planning making a bunch of attachments to turn this guy into a rifle, somewhat similar to the way the unused version in The Art of Star Trek is. I may come back around at a later date to do some tinkering, but I'm excited to move on from the phaser for now.

    I'll claim that the safety is the dome-shaped object above the grip on the right-hand side ;)
     
  8. cardinal biggles

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    So now that the phaser is done, what's next? Back to the bridge, or another prop?
     
  9. Donny

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    Haven't decided yet. I really want to finish the bridge, but my motivation for making more display screens is at a low right now. I still need to model the chairs as well.

    I've thought about modifying my existing TSFS tricorder and communicator to be how they appeared in both TFF and TUC, which would require minimal rework since they were basically the same props with just slightly different details and colors.

    I also want to go back and touch up my exisiting TUC corridors to be on par with the quality I've set with my TWOK corridors.

    I have a secret desire to move on from the Enteprise and explore a few interiors of Sulu's Excelsior, as my motivation has been shifting from just re-creating stuff we saw in the films to exploring the things we didn't see but always wanted to. My stint with making those non-canon TOS ships has really given me an appreciation for exploring the stuff we never got to see.
     
  10. RedForman

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    Like another engineering section or officer's lounge?? ;)
     
  11. Donny

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    If you're referring to potential Excelsior interiors, then yes. Those are two things I'd really like to explore.

    I actually want to flesh out the entire bridge deck so we can see what's behind those aft doors. A conference lounge would be an obvious room to fill the aft space on the bridge deck, but if there's enough space I'd also like to experiment with a small mess and a small ready room between the bridge and said conference lounge.

    But anyway, I feel I must finish the Enterprise bridge first, and then modify it to appear as the Excelsior bridge before I get too far ahead of myself here. And who knows if I'll even still be in a TUC mood by that time.
     
  12. Ian Simpson

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    Hi Donny, How would you feel about modelling the NX01 ship?
     
  13. Tallguy

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    Since we're volunteering you for work :) , something that disappeared from the movies that was a mainstay in TOS was the briefing room. Any TOS movie era would be great. In TMP it was arguably replaced with a combination of Kirk's quarters, the VIP lounge, and the bridge itself.

    And I'll enjoy watching whatever you decide to do of course.
     
  14. Donny

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    Sorry, but I have to admit that I'm not that into the aesthetic of Enterprise, either the sets or the ship. However, I admit I haven't even watched more than a handful of Enterprise episodes, so my lack of desire may change one day if I ever give the series a proper watch.

    I've been kicking around an idea for a TMP Enterprise briefing room for years now, I just have to give it a go. It would be pretty understated, and just an TMP upgrade of what we saw in TOS. But I think it would still be cool to see. I'll give it a shot once I get back in my TMP mode that comes around every so often.
     
  15. Mytran

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    There was a TMP version of the Briefing Room in Mr Scott's Guide To The Enterprise of course, but it was a barely modified version of the one we saw in TOS.
    Still, it nicely answered the question of what might have gone (with a little tweaking) in the empty areas in between the two radial corridors featured in the TMP sets

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  16. Donny

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    Yep, I would stay pretty close to what Lora came up with for MSGTTE as far as layout.
     
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    That's exactly the basis I used for building mine. :)
     
  18. Maurice

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    I shared this with Donny a while back, but we have one partial plan for the Star Trek [Phase] II briefing room, so from it we know what one wall was going to be like and what the viewer was to be, and you can infer a few things from it by looking at Mike Minor's concepts for other sets.

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    (note these plans all say Star Trek II, no Phase)
    It appears they planned cut a piece from one of the bridge wall "skins" for the briefing room viewer surface itself. Since I first sent it to Donny I have scrutinized it more closely. It was going to be mounted to appear to be floating within a metal (ACM) frame with a 3" gap between the sides of the viewer panel and the frame itself. A reflective brushed steel-look mylar backing behind it would bounce light from what looks to be 2-tube florescent fixtures on all 4 sizes of the (obscured) backing support.

    FYI: ACM is "aluminum composite material", in this case is "Alucobond", which is used in a lot in architecture.

    From the partial wall diagram we can infer that the wall in question (with the door in the center) was going to be made up of at least three 8' wide panels, meaning—at minimum—a wall about 24' across.

    Also, given that the ceiling beams indicated on this plan have a rectangular cross-section, we can speculate that this wall was probably intended to be against the curved corridor and not the radial (straight) ones. Why? Because Minor's concepts for the Sickbay and Kirk's cabin have the rectangular cross-section beams being perpendicular to the curved corridor (whereas the V-section ones in Sickbay are depicted parallel to the curved corridor).

    I suspect, given how different the rest of the STII sets were from TOS, that it might not be quite what Lora's suggested. Had it been built it would likely have been extensively renovated for TMP as were the other sets. So if I were to suggest an approach, it would be to start from this plan and Minor's concepts for the other sets (notably Sickbay and the Rec Room) to get the basic structure and then look at how sets like Sickbay got remodeled for TMP. I think that would get you closer to what TMP might've ended up with rather than starting with TOS or MSGTTE.
     
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  19. TIN_MAN

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    I find it interesting that the "phase II" Klingon bridge looks a bit like the TOS briefing room, so I wonder if perhaps they had planned to use the same set for both and redress it accordingly, or at least use common elements for both?
     
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  20. Bill Thompson

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    [QUOTE="Donny, post: 13122666, member: 9860"
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    Not so fast, Donny...you can't just move on now! I demand a complete field strip and assembly manual with part numbers.

    Your object weathering and attention to realism and detail never cease to amaze me.