Clean Slate: Uniforms!

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Penta, Nov 28, 2008.

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  1. Blue Squadron

    Blue Squadron Captain Captain

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    I like those! Subtle use of the Cage-era branch colors and I particularly like the simplicity of the rank insignia - nice! - and they would work well as larger pins on epaulettes or smaller pins on collars (or wherever!).

    Were the jackets intended to be the general day-today uniform or are they a formal uniform?
     
  2. Cepstrum

    Cepstrum Commander Red Shirt

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    BlueSquadron,

    to answer your question: my main thoughts are that you and some others here are highly talented graphic artists. You whip these great-designs out so fast. I cannot even draw basic shapes. I stick to coloring books with my nieces and nephews, hehe. ;)

    so: good work! :techman:
     
  3. kkozoriz1

    kkozoriz1 Fleet Captain

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    Looks great. The belts were the only element I was having trouble with.

    I do miss the 1-1/2-1 stripes for Captain. Call me a traditionalist.
     
  4. Blue Squadron

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    Yeah, I agree; they were only done this way because the thread initially suggested using the contemporary pattern of officer sleeve markings. It would be easy enough to revert the officer cuff insignia to the TOS/TMP pattern and amend the shoulder insignia accordingly.

    That being the case, I'd change the warrant officer insignia to single stripe / single stripe + broken stripe / two stripes but continuing to use their unique style of lace.

    Actually, to be honest, if I was doing it the way I would prefer then I'd ditch the warrant ranks entirely for Starfleet (I just don't think it's really necessary - the Starfleet way is that they'd hold ordinary officer grades) and if Starfleet has to have non-commissioned grades then I'd reduce the number to match those established by costume designer Robert Fletcher for the TWoK movie uniforms.
     
  5. kkozoriz1

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    In TMP the belts were there just to hold the perscan devices. Not really necessary without them.
     
  6. Venardhi

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    These were the bridge officer uniforms. I used to have the standard duty uniform, away team and dress variants but I lost most of my old stuff in a power surge a few years ago that wiped out both of my computers. Only reason I still have this is it was uploaded on my web-space.

    Duty uniforms were basically Cage-style tunics in gray with department colored ship insignia on the breast, as well as department colored rank stripes on the shoulders.

    Away uniform was a bit longer jacket, darker gray with slight reinforcing on the chest and shoulders and had a belt.

    Dress uniform looked like something in between what you see there and a West Point uniform. Department colors were used more heavily on the jacket and rank was displayed more clearly on the shoulders, with black stripes on either side of the dept. colored one on the pants.

    I may recreate them some day, as they were designed for a fan film project I still hope to do one day.
     
  7. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Very nice. Exactly the sort of "changes" I was thinking of.

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    I really like the use of TOS colors on these. I hade a similar idea a while back but never went anywhere with it.

    OTOH, I'm not too keen of the rank straps on the upper sleeve. Seems to disrupt the flow of the design. Shoulder tabs or dare I say it, collar tabs would look better.
     
  8. Blue Squadron

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    Hi - thank you. Yeah, as much as I like the sleeve bands as an idea that's just a bit different I would agree that continuing to use the shoulder straps is aesthetically the better option for these jackets (see my comments in post #68, above). I'd still keep them for working uniforms such as overalls, flight-suits, etc.

    I guess what I was actually thinking when I did this was that there would be occasions when it was appropriate to wear more formal / subdued gray shirts with branch colors shown just on the shoulder straps (+/- behind the Starfleet insignia) but that at other times this could be reversed to have gray shoulder straps on colored shirts of the same design. I like the primary colors approach for at-a-glance role recognition when embarked on a ship. The other great thing about this sort of uniform is that is sure brightens things up for people working for months and years at a time in a big tin can floating in a vacuum - it breaks up the visual monotony of everyone wearing the same drab colors all day, every dayObviously the actual allocation of colors in this particular scheme is different to those from TOS but the basic principle is much the same.

    Collar insignia would definitely be one option but probably not with this particular type of collar designs. I did play with colored collars at one point but (a) they didn't quite look right on this style of uniform or the design of the utility overalls and (b) part of the idea that I was working to was to have the basic components of the uniforms as standard and "uniform" as possible so that they were all the same with the exception of specific components that would be added on to indicate branch and grade - hence the shoulder straps. Following the same principle, that was why the original versions of this used only the lighter shade of gray from the center section of the coat for the contrast trouser stripe instead of the branch color (or off-white for flag officers and none for junior enlisted in the plain darker gray uniforms). The formal blue uniforms, however, do have specific branch-colored detailing as well as the additional insignia.

    Obviously this is less of a problem if uniform items can simply be replicated to a specific requirement...! ;)
     
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  9. Thomas Kenway-USS Cygnus

    Thomas Kenway-USS Cygnus Cadet Newbie

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    Good morning Blue, I'm quite a fan of the uniform designs you've created. I am running a TOS/TMP era sim ship and would like to use those uniforms as the ones my crew wears. I'm unable to get a clear picture though of the designs and would like your help please. Thanks
     
  10. 1001001

    1001001 Serial Canon Violator Moderator

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    Hello,

    First, welcome to the board.

    Second, please take some time to acquaint yourself with the posting rules, located here.

    This thread has been inactive for over 9 years. Time to rest.

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