CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

The 501(3)(c) thing was supposed to be an example of a potential topic. I was showing the depth of a single issue. I could have picked lots of other topics, like any of these: How often should you post updates? How open should you be about your finances? Who long should you take to make a film, and do you have to provide a hard release date? Should you release scenes as they're completed to show everyone what their money is paying for, or should you hold back and wait until the whole thing is done so as not to spoil the overall story?

My understanding of 501(c)(3) is that you have to have a whole team put together with specific people occupying specific positions within the organization before you can realistically start to file for non-profit status. You have to write a complete set of bylaws and such. It's a long, involved process. So, you'd be better off waiting until you're fairly far along (end of pre-production?) before even considering it.

I have not made a film yet. This is, in part, because I moved to a new city a year ago and I'm still trying to find local clubs and resources. I did get involved with a film a club a few months back, and we were in the process of making a (non-Trek) short film. We had a somewhat experienced indie director, and he'd asked us to write scripts with a specific theme.

My script and two others were submitted. One lady wrote a script with a very obvious political slant, and in a style that looked more like a novel than a script. (I mean it was obvious that she hadn't even bothered to research how to format a script.) The other fellow wrote a script with a lot of brilliant dialogue (and really, it was actually quite clever), but the entire scene consisted of a single room where a voice over character talked to a woman dressed in nothing but a bath towel. In other words, if you'd muted the film, it would have just been a wet woman just standing there staring up at nothing for 5 to 10 minutes. Understandably, my script was the one selected. (Although I missed the selection meeting due to a misunderstanding about the schedule and didn't even get to vote on it.)

After another couple of meetings, the two other people who wrote scripts decided to break off and form their own groups, and the original group folded. If you'd like to see the script, I can give you a copy. It's solidly mediocre fare, but it's only four pages long, so it's a light read compared to my other effort so far.

That would make a lot more sense if they were writing a serial and they'd release the first installment. You'd have product you'd be delivering every month to justify the subscription.

From everything I've read and heard, you have to practice a lot at the format you choose, no matter what that is. Experienced poets would not necessarily make good short story or novel writers, and vice versa. So, if you want to write a good novel, you'll probably need to write a lot of crappy ones first, no matter how may poems or short stories you've written.

Now, I'm not sure how much this applies to short films versus TV episodes versus feature films. You could make the argument that scripts are less time-sensitive, I suppose.

A gentleman does not justify his behavior by saying "He started it". Could Gabriel have been more thoughtful in his initial posts to this thread? Perhaps. However, that doesn't excuse the lack of hospitality demonstrated in this thread. For what it's worth, I don't think he intended to be rude, and a simply letting him know that he'd been rude and how probably would have sufficed.

 

?? Then why don't you start it vs. complaining about it in this thread??

 

Because I have no faith in the posters of this forum to pick up the topic once I've started it, that's why. You'd all rather create movie posters making fun of AP instead. That's been my point this whole time. If you were serious about discussing real solutions, you wouldn't need me to start the conversation.

 

So instead, you'd rather keep interjecting in this thread to tell everyone how mean they are and complain that we're not listening to you? Because that makes so much more sense.

 

Wait wait wait.

We don't need you to start topics, nor is it our responsibility to discuss a subject you wish to discuss, let alone an off-this-topic subject in here because just because you're concerned we won't do so in another thread. Should we all start putting other fanfilm-related topics in here just in hopes that people will reply?

Sadly, since the lawsuit and the end of Continues this is really the only active thread in this whole forum. Almost no one replies to new threads or chimes in on new posts in existing ones, even the people who gripe that it's all Axanar all the time.

Frankly, sometimes I wish all Axanar threads would be locked and all discussion of same here would immediately get locked because I think it and the end of the semi-pro fanfilms has killed this forum dead. I don't know if doing so would change anything in terms of participation, but if it didn't then we'd know that perhaps that fan productions no longer merit their own forum.

Just my 2¢.

 

Maybe there’s not much interest in a thread on 501 c 3’s because people aren’t interested in it? As I said: what’s the point in setting one up? I have no interest in one, why would I follow or participate in one.

Simply put: it’s not our fault people aren’t interested in some of the topics.

It’s no one's fault, so while I understand your frustration, I don’t understand your need for finger pointing.

Real solutions for what?

And I’m not sure if in this moment you’re the hero or the victim.

 

Again, not automatically. The Hunt for Red October is not only the first book Tom Clancy ever wrote but the first thing he'd ever written, and it was both critically acclaimed and - thanks to an endorsement from Ronaldus Magnus - wildly successful commercially. There is no absolute formula for writing a good npvel. You could write a hundred practice books and not come up with a great one or knock one out of the park on your first try. There's no law that says a great poet can't also write great prose. Timing, natural ability and target audience also factor into it.

 

Tom Clancy wrote Patriot Games and Without Remorse first. That's why it they place before Red October, despite being published later. Clancy writing multiple novels before getting to one that was publishable, and then revisiting the others later is a perfect example of the "practice makes perfect" idea.

 

I know of a perfect way of not getting a novel published: not writing.

Same with movies and poems.

You learn by doing. Call if practicing if one wants, but it’s still doing.

But it’s a mindset. I don’t practice writing. I write. I write my screenplays, I write my novel.

Practice to me is preparing to do something. But cut out that step and just do it. Make mistakes. Learn from those mistakes and do the next thing.

 

Lawyers practice law. Doctors practice medicine. This does not seem like an ideal linguistic hill to die on.

 

Who’s dying?
Maybe if lawyers and doctors stopped practicing they could make something of themselves.

 

Been sitting here for a half an hour searching for the logic of it all.
Perhaps it's a movie quote?

 

No, those stories are simply prequels to Red October and Cardinal of The Kremlin.. He wrote Red October first.

 

No, he wrote Red October in 1982, Patriot Games in 1979, and Without Remorse in 1971, or, at least, that's what he started each of them.

 

Would anyone care to cite sources for these assertions of when the books were written?

 

Axanar got its $10,000 from the Treckcetera auction:
https://axanarproductions.com/trekcetera-auction-a-huge-success/

 

Part 2 : More subtitles then you can shake a stick at... STOP SHAKING THAT STICK, SHEESH PEOPLE !

It's not a perk ? So it's a tumor ? IT'S NODDAH TOOOOOOMAAAAHHHHHH !

Also : We're still waiting on that movie Alec, any day now....

 

I've started several threads on movies and TV shows, and not gotten responses, afterwards I just shrugged my shoulders and moved on, I didn't try and force people in other threads to discuss them there instead.

I'm not positive, but I believe Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's/Philosopher's Stone was the first thing JK Rowling ever wrote.

 

According to Clancy himself, he started writing Patriot Games in 1979 and Without Remorse in 1971.

They were finished/released later yes, but they were started before.

 

This Clancy obit Says Patriot Games was started in 1979; so does this obit.

And this article from 1993 says Without Remorse was started in 1971.