CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by jespah, May 10, 2018.

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Do you enjoy pie?

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  2. Yes, savory, please

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  3. Yes, any kind

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  1. motorhead

    motorhead Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Equally important: start with a BOOK right out of the gate. Don't even consider writing a (short) story, a poem, an essay... whatever first. Does stuff automaticly suck if it has < 200 pages?
     
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  2. JD

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    I always read the last one or two full pages of a thread before I join the conversation. It obviously won't give me all of the details in a thread that's been going on as long as one like this has, but it will at least give me an idea of where the conversation is right now.
     
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  3. Krandor

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    I don’t agree with what ap did and I think his actions accelerated the guidelines but even if hadn’t happened guidelines were going to happen. The money was getting too big. Professionals running fan films was happening more and more and shows like renegades with multiple trek actors playing their trek roles was a problem.

    Maybe they would have been a different form without Axanar but imho limits on crowdfunding, restrictions on paying cast and crew, and limitations on former trek people being involved was going to happen at a minimum. Cbs was going to have to rein some of it in.
     
  4. F. King Daniel

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    Wasn't Axanar promising Axanar novels (by actual Trek novelists) and coffee table books years ago during their big fundraiser?

    Just sayin':lol:
     
  5. KennyB

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    Yes and when they refused to do so because of license issues he suggested just using a pen name and doing it illegally......:brickwall:
     
  6. F. King Daniel

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    That pretty much sums up The Keeper of the Faith of Star Trek Fandom:lol:
     
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  7. jespah

    jespah Taller than a Hobbit Moderator

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    Ayup. Ethics, shmethics.
     
  8. Admiral2

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    Well, nothing ever automatically sucks, but you can get a whole lot of suckage into two hundred pages if you're not careful.

    While I see your point, I see no problem with a collection of short stories or poems, or even essays, as long as the individual works were used to help build up your readership beforehand. That's how big name writers often got their starts.
     
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  9. Krandor

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    Yeah back in the day one of the big ways for a sci-fi writer to start was getting in Asimov or analog magazines. Those were great to help people get publicity.
     
  10. motorhead

    motorhead Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    we're exactly on the same, uh, page, my attempts at cynism, irony and sarcasm are always clumsy, sorry.
     
  11. MikeH92467

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    Reminds me of a novel that came out in the early 70's called "Naked Came the Stranger" by "Peneloped Ashe". It was designed as a satiric con job directed at the publishing industry. The perpetrators hired a random bunch of people, non of whom had any experience as writers, to write individual chapters of a trashy novel. It turns out that some of the non-writers actually had some talent and their efforts were promptly sent back with instructions to try again. Of course, the book was awful and it was a runaway best seller...at least until the word got out that the whole thing was a hoax. Of course, unlike AP since there was no IP infringement, they got away with it and laughed all the way to the bank. Anyway back to our regular scheduled programming...
    ETA: after looking it up, I found that the chapters were written by journalists, some of whom did indeed have to be coached to write worse...
     
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  12. Admiral2

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    Or, my ability to read sarcasm as sarcasm is faltering. No worries.
     
  13. USS Intrepid

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    Now I’m just wondering how long it’s going to be before people start arguing that you can’t tell a proper story in less than several hundred pages.
     
  14. Krandor

    Krandor Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    If it is shorter then game of thrones it doesn’t count.
     
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    Or it's the Internet and a text based medium making sarcasm very difficult to read.
     
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    Just dropped by to say Happy Birthday to our very own Madam Justice.
     
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  17. jespah

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    Oh thank you; it's not until Sept. 2. When I'm traveling on business! To Cleveland.

    I wish that was the start of a joke. Unfortunately, it's not. <3
     
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    Safe travels, I'm too trusting of FB Birthday notices.
     
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