Spoilers Dark PhoeniX - Review and Discussion Thread

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If you look at it like that, X-Men had a pretty solid run.
X1 - X2 - X3 - The Wolverine - First Class - Days of Future Past - Deadpool - Logan - Deadpool 2.

 

And the Deadpool movies and Legion were great spin-offs that did new and different things. Honestly, Fox's X-Men wasn't the massive failure people make it out to be.

 

As mediocre as this movie may be, I refuse to believe it's as bad as The Last Stand. The Last Stand is an eternal crime against geekdom.

Oh, and Logan is just as divergent from the main franchise timeline as the Deadpool movies. What's the point of DoFP is Xavier just ends up killing everyone with his mind a few days after the happy coda, anyhow?! (What it could be is a sequel to The Last Stand, which it eventually got overwritten with.)

 

This is just a disappointing end to a once great franchise.

 

I will say I seemed to like Apocalypse more than most, though it definitely could have been better.

That they could even have a second opportunity to do Dark Phoenix, properly this time, and not only flub it, but flub it even more than they already did...I'm sorry I'm pretty much repeating myself here. I just hate the idea that the X-Men franchise would have fallen so far that I would intentionally choose not to see one of the films in theaters. I mean, I missed Last Stand, but that wasn't deliberate, that was dodging a bullet by accident.

 

It was alright. It wasn’t as “epic” as I would have liked in scope but it did have some good action scenes. The ending doesn’t really mesh well with the ending of DoFP but I suppose there is another 20 years to fix that in their timeline.
I also would have made more emphasis on the aliens since that is something new to this universe and I would have liked to see more reactions from the world to them.
I also found the humans sudden reversal from loving the mutants and treating the X Men like international rescue to wanting them all locked up after a few police cars were destroyed was a tad excessive.

 

I've found the silver lining in all this negativity and the ripple effect it is already having on the film's release: nothing is actually lost by the film failing since it's the end of an era either way.

 

I already decided pretty soon after the first two trailers this is a wait for Netflix/bargain bin movie for me. Nothing, and I do mean nothing of what I've seen sofar makes me intersted in this.

 

Who here was making it out to be a massive failure?

 

True. The disappointment stems from how good the franchise has been. If the franchise was a failure, nobody would even care enough to post in this thread.

 

X-Men has always stunk when it comes to portraying Humans with nuance, admittedly.

 

I am seeing it tonight. My only real knowledge of the X-men before the movies was the 90s cartoon. So deviations for the comics has never been an issue for me. I will judge it on my own.

It’d amazing we got as many more films as we did after The Last Stand. This whole franchise was slowly made, step by step. With constantly changing directors and controversies. I am just happy with the good stuff we got. There were doubts Days of Future Past would even get maybe when accusations against Singer resurfaced again. I like the First Class cast a lot. James McAvoy in particular. I never expected he would play Xavier 4 times!

 

I didn't mean the TrekBBS. I meant the internet in general and BirthMoviesDeath, another site I frequent, specifically. People are acting like The Last Stand (by far the best of this list), Origins: Wolverine, Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix are representative of the overall quality of the franchise when the vast majority of the X-Men movies are generally considered to be in the good-to-excellent range. Not to mention great spin-offs like Deadpool and Legion.

 

My wife is out of town with the baby for the next few days and I was debating seeing this tomorrow after work if the RT scores were decent.

But 22? Woof.

I can appreciate that around 40%, there might be some redeeming qualities to a movie, but this low? No thanks. I'll wait until Redbox.

 

How did people decide what to see before Rotten Tomatoes???

I feel such shame to later learn movies I liked as a kid had bad reviews and box office...
Obvious Sarcasm...

 

Conversely, Rotten Tomatoes might have kept my friend's dad from dragging us to see The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas. Granted, The Flintstones should have kept him from dragging us to see The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas.

 

I find RT useful as a way for checking out multiple reviews from a single point of intersection. And if I don't know whether I want to see a movie, it's useful.

If someone wants to check the RT score before seeing a film, why is that an issue for you?

Oh, and before Rotten Tomatoes people still read movie reviews.

 

Rotten tomatoes has kind of killed my enthusiasm to see that dumb movie. I remember a few years ago I saw the rating for Hook was like in the 20s or 30s and that surprised me because I loved that movie.

What is a dumb/bad movie that actually might be good.

 

Not to mention Siskel & Ebert and Ebert & Roeper and Roeper & Jay Leno!? The fuck are you doing here? being highly influential on the movie-going public. In America, at least.

 

Rotten Tomatoes on it's own does not persuade or dissuade me from seeing a movie, but it is one data point that I use along with trailers, who is involved, reviews from reviewers whose tastes generally align with mine, etc. Just because it is not flawless does not mean that it is useless either.