The least disliked episode of VOY - Season Five

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by BlueStuff, May 14, 2019.

  1. BlueStuff

    BlueStuff Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    This is a game that we play every few years, and it's generally a lot of fun, providing a chance to mentally revisit those episodes you may not have thought about in a while. With that in mind, why not play again?

    So, here's the game. The basic idea is your standard elimination game. I'll provide a list of the episodes for each season and you need to eliminate your least favorite or the one you deem the 'worst.' Please provide an EXPLANATION for why you are eliminating your choice and be sure to copy and paste the list with your choice removed. Finally, please leave at least 2 eliminations by other posters before you eliminate another episode.

    No tactical voting! You cannot remove an episode just because you feel they would threaten your preferred episode's chance to win.
    Pretty simple. Enjoy! :bolian:

    Hall of Champions
    2011 - Meld
    2013 - Living Witness
    2017 - Blink of an Eye
    2019 -


    Season Five

    Night
    Drone
    Extreme Risk
    In the Flesh
    Once Upon a Time
    Timeless
    Infinite Regress
    Nothing Human
    Thirty Days
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bride of Chaotica!
    Gravity
    Bliss
    Dark Frontier
    The Disease
    Course: Oblivion
    The Fight
    Think Tank
    Juggernaut
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    11:59
    Relativity
    Warhead
    Equinox (I)
     
  2. Sakonna

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    There are several I'd love to ax on here, but I'll start with "The Fight", which just feels like such a wall of nothing. I always hate a Chakotay episode, and the guest appearance of Boothby felt so bizarre and desperate. Why did they feel a need to toss that character into Voyager at all, much less multiple times in a season?

    Night
    Drone
    Extreme Risk
    In the Flesh
    Once Upon a Time
    Timeless
    Infinite Regress
    Nothing Human
    Thirty Days
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bride of Chaotica!
    Gravity
    Bliss
    Dark Frontier
    The Disease
    Course: Oblivion
    Think Tank
    Juggernaut
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    11:59
    Relativity
    Warhead
    Equinox (I)
     
  3. BigDaveX

    BigDaveX Captain Captain

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    In my view, this is Voyager's best season... meaning that a royal stinker like The Disease stands out all the more. Credit for trying something new with Harry, but it just went horribly wrong in execution.

    Night
    Drone
    Extreme Risk
    In the Flesh
    Once Upon a Time
    Timeless
    Infinite Regress
    Nothing Human
    Thirty Days
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bride of Chaotica!
    Gravity
    Bliss
    Dark Frontier
    Course: Oblivion
    Think Tank
    Juggernaut
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    11:59
    Relativity
    Warhead
    Equinox (I)
     
  4. Discofan

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    So many to choose from but in that list "In The Flesh" really takes the cake. It just doesn't make sense. For example, why would the 8472 they captured kill himself when we know that these are practically invulnerable? What was it trying to hide? That's just stupid.

    Night
    Drone
    Extreme Risk
    In the Flesh
    Once Upon a Time
    Timeless
    Infinite Regress
    Nothing Human
    Thirty Days
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bride of Chaotica!
    Gravity
    Bliss
    Dark Frontier
    Course: Oblivion
    Think Tank
    Juggernaut
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    11:59
    Relativity
    Warhead
    Equinox (I)
     
  5. BlueStuff

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    Urgh, I hate In the Flesh. Totally laughable portrayal of Species 8472.

    Night
    Drone
    Extreme Risk
    Once Upon a Time
    Timeless
    Infinite Regress
    Nothing Human
    Thirty Days
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bride of Chaotica!
    Gravity
    Bliss
    Dark Frontier
    Course: Oblivion
    Think Tank
    Juggernaut
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    11:59
    Relativity
    Warhead
    Equinox (I)
     
  6. Discofan

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    I forgot to remove it from the list, sorry.
     
  7. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Stupid Sexy Flanders! Premium Member

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    Hmm, first blood goes to Gravity, a very middle-of-the-road episode. It's just kind of there.

    Night
    Drone
    Extreme Risk
    Once Upon a Time
    Timeless
    Infinite Regress
    Nothing Human
    Thirty Days
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bride of Chaotica!
    Bliss
    Dark Frontier
    Course: Oblivion
    Think Tank
    Juggernaut
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    11:59
    Relativity
    Warhead
    Equinox (I)
     
  8. Sakonna

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    "Night" is quite a dreary hour for me. I really grew to hate that occasional episode structure of "now we are going to finally deal with the darkness inherent in our premise -- for one week only!"

    Drone
    Extreme Risk
    Once Upon a Time
    Timeless
    Infinite Regress
    Nothing Human
    Thirty Days
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bride of Chaotica!
    Bliss
    Dark Frontier
    Course: Oblivion
    Think Tank
    Juggernaut
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    11:59
    Relativity
    Warhead
    Equinox (I)
     
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  9. NovaStar

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    Course Oblivion can go into Oblivion as far as I care. What a waste of an episode to have such dramatic scenes and memorable moments only for it to mean absolutely nothing in the end. The Voyager crew certainly won't remember them and I won't either. The episode should have ended differently.

    Drone
    Extreme Risk
    Once Upon a Time
    Timeless
    Infinite Regress
    Nothing Human
    Thirty Days
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bride of Chaotica!
    Bliss
    Dark Frontier
    Think Tank
    Juggernaut
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    11:59
    Relativity
    Warhead
    Equinox (I)
     
  10. Starflight

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    Bride of Chaotica!. Just do not care about Captain Proton. I appreciate the lightheartedness and Janeway's badass spider queen outfit, but it's still basically a giant waste of time.

    Drone
    Extreme Risk
    Once Upon a Time
    Timeless
    Infinite Regress
    Nothing Human
    Thirty Days
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bliss
    Dark Frontier
    Think Tank
    Juggernaut
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    11:59
    Relativity
    Warhead
    Equinox (I)
     
  11. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Admiral Admiral

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    Eliminating Dark Frontier.

    The episode that weakened the Borg permanently and made the Borg collective represented in Voyager by a single groan inducing voice.

    Drone
    Extreme Risk
    Once Upon a Time
    Timeless
    Infinite Regress
    Nothing Human
    Thirty Days
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bliss
    Think Tank
    Juggernaut
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    11:59
    Relativity
    Warhead
    Equinox (I)
     
  12. Catarina

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    Juggernaut. Go away Captain Planet villian.

    Drone
    Extreme Risk
    Once Upon a Time
    Timeless
    Infinite Regress
    Nothing Human
    Thirty Days
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bliss
    Think Tank
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    11:59
    Relativity
    Warhead
    Equinox (I)
     
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  13. Takeru

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    Thirty Days, another stupid prime directive plot.


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    Extreme Risk
    Once Upon a Time
    Timeless
    Infinite Regress
    Nothing Human
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bliss
    Think Tank
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    11:59
    Relativity
    Warhead
    Equinox (I)
     
  14. Sakonna

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    I appreciate the ideas they're trying to explore with "Nothing Human", but the premise is so convoluted it's hard to buy into. If you need this guy's knowledge, it's bizarre to think the only way to get at it is via a hologram of his actual body fully decked out with his actual evil personality. Then, once created, it's similar nonsensical to punish him for the actions of the real person. It's as if the TNG characters reacted to Moriarty becoming real by immediately putting him on trial for the crimes his character committed in the novels -- the logic simply doesn't track.

    And plus the bullshit of that split-decision ending -- we're going to use this ill-gotten knowledge JUST THIS ONCE, and then totally delete it forever, because using it (more than once) would be wrong. Wha?

    Drone
    Extreme Risk
    Once Upon a Time
    Timeless
    Infinite Regress
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bliss
    Think Tank
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    11:59
    Relativity
    Warhead
    Equinox (I)
     
  15. Seven of Five

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    I was never a big fan of Extreme Risk. I like B'Elanna, but here she's exhibiting the kind of behaviour that would have been better explored over two or three (or more) episodes. As it is, it appears once and is forgotten about instantly.

    Drone
    Once Upon a Time
    Timeless
    Infinite Regress
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bliss
    Think Tank
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    11:59
    Relativity
    Warhead
    Equinox (I)
     
  16. BigDaveX

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    11:59; Shannon O'Donnell's story might have made for an okay subplot in another episode, but it just isn't interesting enough to carry an entire episode.

    Drone
    Once Upon a Time
    Timeless
    Infinite Regress
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bliss
    Think Tank
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    Relativity
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  17. Discofan

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    I am getting rid of "Timeless" because of its unlikeliness. That a manic-depressive like Harry Kim would spend the remainder of his life ruining it and creating an alternate timeline to assuage his guilt, sounds almost like deja vu, but that he would get someone with a life like Chakotay to go along with it stretches it way beyond believability.

    Drone
    Once Upon a Time
    Infinite Regress
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bliss
    Think Tank
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    Relativity
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  18. Takeru

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    Once upon a time. I mostly remember the creepy holodeck creatures, that was supposed to be a program for children? It was nightmare inducing.


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    Counterpoint
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    Bliss
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    Someone to Watch Over Me
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  19. BlueStuff

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    Think Tank. Not bad but Jason Alexander seems miscast.

    Drone
    Infinite Regress
    Counterpoint
    Latent Image
    Bliss
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    Relativity
    Warhead
    Equinox (I)
     
  20. BigDaveX

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    Latent Image; the basic idea of the episode is sound, but having Janeway order the entire crew to expunge all trace of Ensign Jetal's existence rather than a simpler solution like reprogramming the Doctor to believe that Kim had a better chance of survival than Jetal just seemed like a ridiculously convoluted solution.

    Drone
    Infinite Regress
    Counterpoint
    Bliss
    Someone to Watch Over Me
    Relativity
    Warhead
    Equinox (I)