Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x14 - "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2"

I have to say too that I wouldn't mind seeing this recut into a single film, like for a SE Bluray or whatever.

 

Not necessarily. Calypso takes place 1000 years after Discovery is abandoned in a nebula. It could be 1000 years later than the 950 years in the future they just jumped to.

 

Just a hint at the other Treks in the pipeline...

While Discovery has broken for season three, there are many other Trek series in the pipeline, including the upcoming Picard show starring Patrick Stewart. What is the state of that series as well as the franchise as a whole?

Kurtzman ... "The intention is to have something Star Trek on the air all the time, but not necessarily on top of each other. These shows take a minimum of a year to develop, make, produce, and post.

..."The idea is to always have something. Two years from now, a show will end, there will be a little breath, and then another show will begin."

 

Umm, no, it was finishing the 23rd century side of things. Not really a surprise.

Only surprise was not a glimpse of where Discovery went, but the writers probably hadn't figured that out at that point.

 

Mount is a really good actor, but he is not a hot commodity. Playing hard to get is just not a real negotiating option for most actors.

 

No.. the Star Trek infowars group will grasp onto the fact that they "erased DSC" from continuity because they decided a prequel was a bad idea and they coudn't make it work with canon.. Yadda yadda yadda

 

He will probably ask for more money, but from his interview about it, it seemed to me that he really wants to have a bit more of a say in what They do with the character.

 

Well, that was a far more satisfying conclusion to Season 2 than "Will You Take My Hand?" was to Season 1.

I was really hoping to know where the Disco crew ended up, but in retrospect I think not knowing was the only way the season could realistically have ended. I would much rather they take time to break the story for Season 3 after completing work on Season 2 than try to devise the premise for 3 during the writing of the finale.

Spock and Michael had what I thought was a satisfying conclusion to their arc, and I really enjoyed seeing her step up and assume the big sister role in her final moments with him. If we needed to know why Spock never mentioned her, why the Spore Drive is never discussed in later series, and why no one knows about Discovery (hint: really, we didn't), this is as good as anything for sealing this chapter of the world off and putting it aside.

I think Siranna's reappearance strained believability somewhat, although I can't deny that they did set up the transformation. Have the Kelpiens learned to work with the Ba'ul, or did they conquer them again?

The revelation of the red bursts was satisfying, and those who suggested that Reno was critical to their survival were absolutely correct. Spock and Michael sure got lucky with the whole "the Red Angel wants to save you" business.

So, if all they had to do to defeat Leland was magnetize him, was taking Discovery to the future necessary? Or did the drone ships lose coordination at the moment that Leland ended the timestream and the sphere data with him? It's got to be the second, right?

There's probably more to say, but even though I didn't entirely love with the Control storyline, I do find myself optimistic about Paradise as showrunner. I get the sense that she might have told this story a bit differently, as she looked slightly uncomfortable when Naomi Kyle enthusiastically praised the Control plot on "The Ready Room." We'll see what she does with the greatest gift of all: a new world to build.

At any rate, I can't help thinking that it's a shame that a sect of fandom, mostly on YouTube, screamed, spread fake news, and mobilized others with such un-Trekkian bile to the point where the showrunners seem to have developed an understandable anxiety about canon. I wonder how much of this season was ultimately motivated by the need to move the show to a place where they could enjoy creative freedom without being shredded because their perfectly legitimate, comfortably canonical choices did not match the personal politics or head canon of that narrow sect of loud social media followers. I still maintain that there's not a single thing wrong with having set Discovery in this era, nor making Michael Spock's sister, nor with the Spore Drive. It's a big world, and there are plenty of stories to tell even when your hero is related to other heroes in the franchise. What they gave us was rich: we know so much more about Spock and Pike that will inform how we interpret TOS. The problem was an out of control fandom that couldn't stop pushing and shoving to see their personal interpretation of canon honored on screen above the goal of telling a good story. (I don't mean folks here, by the way, who are the most level and reasonable Trek fan community on the internet.) I feel sorry for the showrunners. So, really, this is huge: next season, we have a rejiggered core cast, a completely blank slate for world-building, and finally (one hopes) a stable creative hand guiding events.

 

Cromwell was actually useful for a change

 

Kurtzman confirms S3 is 950 years in the future. Going with an entirely new universe to explore. Sounds great!

 

Don't take this from me.

 

I just hope it isn't some stupid "fall of the Federation" shit.

That's the one thing that'll keep me away.

 

YES! I had the exact same thought!

 

The galaxy has gotten a bit small.

 

I got enough of Treks future with the Berman years.
I'm not especially looking forward to another 900 year jump.

 

Damned that was excellent. And we got to see fighters!

 

I don’t see the problem. Everything will be unknown and new again. Brand new stories and new characters.

 

It's got to be, They set up that scenario with "CALYPSO".

 

Same here.

 

What else can they really do? 13 episodes on Risa will get dull pretty quick.