Spoilers First hand behind the scenes information

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Hoity Toity, Mar 4, 2019.

  1. Timo

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    Or then there were no internal partitions to begin with. Fanfic has traditionally had these triangle-hulled ships as shuttlecarriers, with plenty of unobstructed interior room in these exceptionally shaped secondary hulls. Perhaps Starfleet took one of those and crammed it full of harebrained experiments in its quest to win Burnham's War? Since only the Spore Drive ever panned out, the other experiments were eventually removed, leaving the ship with most of her original interior caverns, only now filled with infra originally designed to accommodate stuff that no longer is there...

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  2. XCV330

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    Gravity was really low inside regula 1. The waterfall was moving... just really slowly :D

    This reply lacks the de rigeur "heh..millenials" and "get off my lawn" and something about damned hipsters and Tame Impala. The TOS bridge is covered ceiling to knee level in screens, blinkenlights and indecipherable gizmos. As cool as it was the TMP/WOK bridge is even more jarring now with all the late 70's and 90's graphics moving constantly with the occasionally borrowed Franz Joseoph drawing. I like them all, but I don't think Discovery's bridge is any more complicated. Less claustrophobic, perhaps. I did find the JJ-prize bridge to be very bright. Good for filming but might have been annoying to work on.
     
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  3. WarpFactorZ

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    I always thought it was moving. I recall seeing (or reading) something about the FX in TWOK back in the 80s. The waterfall was described as actually being a rotating dyed cotton ball. Am I mis-remembering this?
     
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    i need to rewatch but but as I recall there was a little bit of glimmer on the matte painting. As a kid watching the movie in he theater who was fond of caves I just thought Genesis cave was the best thing ever. But I do remember the waterfall didnt seem to fall much.
     
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    Yeppers...



    (thought the large waterfall off in the far distance at the end, doesn't appear to have been animated)
     
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  6. F. King Daniel

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    Discovery has loads of those:lol:
    Except of course, theirs are real holographic screens and not ones added in post.
     
  7. The Wormhole

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    I'm quite sure Justin Lin didn't care for them either, based on the fact most of the bridge lights were turned off in Beyond.
     
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  8. Fandango831

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    I just figured it was in the spine of the neck section of Discovery (I mean look how beefy it is with those 3 layers). My thinking this is because usually it's used to show a transition to the shuttlebay from the bridge so from the primary hull to the secondary. Also considering that the neck doesn't have a need for decks in the spinal part considering that no one would work or live there specifically so it's probably mostly hollow structure, plasma conduits, piping, and the turbolift system between hull sections.
     
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    The ship isn't tiny so scale doesn't bug me with how cavernous some of those turbolift shots are. I've spent enough time around Nimitz class carriers at North Island that the perception of scale doesn't feel off (Also consider that the Discovery has considerably more internal volume on a per scale basis to a modern carrier). As for Pike's ready room being in the neck that also isn't per say an issue. As I said the neck appears to be divided into three sections (2 outer deck layers that sandwich a bulky and more than likely hollow spinal section).
     
  10. The Wormhole

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    That theory has been circulating since at least TNG's day. Breaking Bad even did a joke about it.
     
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  11. The Wormhole

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    Way ahead of you on that one.
     
  12. Tim Thomason

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    Yeah, we've seen a toilet generally conveniently hidden in wall panels like in Star Trek V, so my belief is there's a button to push to bring the toilet out in the shuttles/ready room/brig/etc. They may even have opaque force fields (and sound dampening) for when there's someone else in the shuttle.

    As for the DiscoLifts, perhaps we're seeing some sort of Turbolift Control Room, which has a scale model of all the turbolift activity for review and study.
     
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  14. F. King Daniel

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    There were worker bees buzzing around inside there, ruling out it being a scale model or artistic rendering without decks.

    And they've used it twice now and shown the view from the corridor below the Funhouse at least as many times, so it's not going anywhere.
     
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    I couldn't give two shits how "realistic" the DiscoLifts may or may not be. They look cool, it's a throwaway scene that's really not important to the plot, so I say let them have a bit of fun. :shrug:

    I'm OK with that.
     
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    It didn't look like a joke on ENT "In a Mirror Darkly" episode. I would say it looked damn good with modern lighting. That said I am OK with a Discovery level update, and I am sure I will love it (just like I loved the exterior changes)
     
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    It looked good to the average lifelong Trek fan. It likely didn't look good to the average viewer, who would have seen it and said "Oh, hoaky 60s sci-fi". Discovery doesn't have to hook the former audience, but they do the latter.

    Oh, and PS: I thought the bridge looked hoaky in IaMD, and I am a lifelong Trek fan. It was quaint and fun in "Relics", and fit with the theme of the show --- outdated things. Not so in ENT, I felt.
     
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  18. Tim Thomason

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    Maybe these worker bees are actually bee-sized!
     
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    I thought the sets in IaMD looked terrible, the Constitution class also looked really dated next to the NX class and even the Andorian and Vulcan ships
     
  20. F. King Daniel

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    I thought the Defiant looked really cool (especially with the new lighting, which brought out the glow of the jelly bean buttons). But it only works if you accept Trek as a Star Wars-esque elseworld because there's no way those controls make sense.

    They were clever to portray the clunky 60's look as being ultra-advanced technology-meets-art.
     
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