Midnight's Edge - Star Trek 4 has lost investor funding

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by PixelMagic, Oct 29, 2018.

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  1. fireproof78

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    Tell that my friends who are girls in my life ;)
     
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    Whether one is a fan or not (and I'm decidedly in the 'or not' category currently), Discovery isn't going anywhere for a while. There's already talk it is getting renewed for a third season.
     
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    I only just learned that Midnight's Edge has ties with Alec Peters, which explains so much to me, and only reaffirms how full of shit they are.
     
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    I’m not sure about that and I’m a Discovery fan. They’re already giving up the first episode of season two for free on YouTube and their have been plenty of rumblings of a low subscriber count.
     
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    Showtime, which is owned by CBS, did something similar by posting the first episode of the new TWIN PEAKS series on YouTube as a way to entice more subscriptions for seeing more episodes. I wouldn't take it as an indication that they're in trouble, though I'm sure Midnight's Edge loves to push that narrative for its viewers.
     
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    Twin Peaks, as much as I liked it, had horrible ratings and was a limited series.
     
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    Not surprising given how the show has more of a cult following, and most who watched it was through the app rather than live. That's how I watched it, as I'm very much a cord cutter.
     
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    Clickbait channel is clickbait.
    And apparently more often than not just completely uncited.
     
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    Low subscriber count, you say?
     
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    It all comes down to how accurate Midnight Edge's sources of information are, how good their interpretation of the information is, what their hit/miss ratio is.

    What else matters?
     
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    They have all these new subscribers, directly contradicting "low subscriber count". Transferring the blame for CBS' success doesn't make the original statement any less wrong.
     
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    Extremely doubtful that the game was more than a marginal component of the subscription push. It’s not...logical.
     
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    Sources tend not to be named, either to protect the relationship or because they don't exist.

    As for analysing the interpretation of information, and the hit-miss ratio, that depends on claims being able to be assessed independently as to whether or not they are true or not. Often, that is not the case.

    To take just some of the "news" from such sources I have seen lately:

    - Les Moonves scrapped Fuller's ideas for Discovery and replaced them with his own.
    - Discovery is produced under the Bad Robot licence, and thus is not part of the Prime universe.
    - CBS demanded a ludicrous amount of money from Netflix for Short Treks and were laughed out of the room.

    All very unlikely with a modicum of logical thought, but none can be definitively disproved. Hence, people who want to believe them will continue to do so, and some will even fiercely defend them.
     
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    I'm not expert on studio politics, but AFAIK if Bad Robot was even slightly involved in DSC, they would be referenced in the credits, which they aren't?
     
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    That was my argument.

    Also that it was utter nonsense that CBS would give away rights they possess to let another company produce the flagship show on their own network. Further, that if it was a Bad Robot production, they would not greenlight a future spin-off to that show (which would surely fall under the same licence) when the Bad Robot contract is about to expire.

    Still can't convince some people. There's a Screenrant article which claims it, with no source or explanation, and that is insurmountable proof for those who want to believe.
     
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    Midnight’s Edge does the shady thing of presenting facts with actual sources, then present rumors, then start mixing them up like with the one about Netflix “laughing the CBS execs out of the room” bit. It sure sounds juicy for those hating on DISCO, and that’s who ME caters to.
     
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    They’re not the only ones saying that Les Moonves scrapped all of Bryan Fuller’s ideas, Robert Meyer Burnett and others have said the same thing.
     
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    Source?
     
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    RMB had close ties to Axanar. Alex Peters is pushing Midnight's Dredge and the like in his recent Axanar videos.

    That's the source.
     
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