Midnight's Edge - Star Trek 4 has lost investor funding

Scotty being the second gunman on the grassy knoll is my personal favourite unproduced Trek film script.

 

if anything, the edgar wright version of beyond is the one i think is the biggest missed opportunity and that one was only ever hypothetical.

 

EWright directing Orcis script starring The Shat and Pegg (and no doubt Nick Frost).. what a crazy movie that would've been for the 50th!

 

I really wanna' fuckin' see some concept art for Tarantino's Star Trek movie! I don't care about much else.

 

Cho on ST4
https://trekmovie.com/2018/12/10/john-cho-optimistic-for-star-trek-4/

more interesting is it states Abrams deal with Paramount is coming to an end in 2020.. I guess that would close the book on any ST4 and maybe Tarantino Trek? (unless that would clear the way for a non Bad Robot produced QT ST4...?)

 

this came up before regarding the "megadeal" also mentioned in this article, but films already in development or pre-production by bad robot will probably be released after 2020 through paramount anyway. this really has no bearing on trek 4 until we get some more concrete reporting on both the film's actual status and the particulars of abrams and bad robot's new deal.

also, michael bay's platinum dunes production company produced all of the transformers films (released by paramount) that bay directed, but did not produce the upcoming bumblebee, which bay did not direct but still lives in the transformers cinematic universe he ostensibly created. the bad robot/kelvin timeline relationship may be similar.

so once again, there's no news here, other than cho's comments about why he wants to see another film get made.

 

That's a good one and I think Planet of Titans would have been good too

 

I'm pretty sure that only means for ST4 'Bad Robot' is not involved, and if they wanted to be, they need to renegotiate.

Big studios only let directors play with their properties. They don't give them away to directors. Max. they make some "exclusive" deal for a limited time. But Bad Robot doesn't own anything about the Star Trek reboot, nor do they own part of Star Wars after Abrams "reinvented" it.

 

I thought JJ did a wonderful job with the franchise films. I remember seeing ST 2009 and just loving every minute of it. I still believe the first ten minutes of that film is some of the best Trek ever produced on the big screen.

 

Exactly so.

 

I LOVED the first 10 minutes of each of the three Kelvin-timeline movies to death!
They really nail the "one weird day in the Trek universe"-vibe perfectly. Wether it's the Kelvin on a mission in deep space, Kirk, Spock & crew saving weird pre-warp civilisations from a volcano, or negotiations with tiny, aggressive aliens - These beginnings nail the Trek vibe!

I sadly found my enjoyment of each movie slowly dwindle away after each respective movie's "main" plot kicked it (some dude starts a revenge-tour), when they become more and more by-the-numbers predictable action schlock, until at the end of each movie I got kinda' annoyed at how same-y and un-special they all felt... I really wish we could have seen more interesting STORIES happening in these movies! The tone, the characters, the worldbuilding - all that was a really, really great modernization of TOS!

 

I loved 128 minutes of 2009 Star Trek to death.

 

It's the best 12 minutes of Star Trek period.

 

While the "warping off into the sunset" ending has started to feel overused in Trek films, because it's the most obvious thing to do, I really like the James Bond-style cold opens the Kelvin films have done as a way of capturing that the crew is, in fact, having TV-worthy adventures on a weekly basis, but we're sliding in just before one of the big ones. I think the only PT movie to try it was Insurrection, and it seemed we were coming in to the tail end of a fairly lame episode.

 

But with chrysanthemums.

 

It's right up there near the very top, yes. Do I rank it over Drydock scenes in TMP, Reliant attack, Spock's death or stealing the Enterprise? Tough call for me.

 

I think it's just a case of the grass being greener. The idea of Orci's contribution alone making the third film as big of a hit as the first two. Seeing how he would continue what he started with the first two. I'm much happier with what we got anyway, and if BEYOND has to be the last we see of Pine's crew then so be it because it was my favorite of the Bad Robot films, and I rather leave on a high note, regardless of box office.

 

yes that's It exactly. continuing/concluding? the alternate timeline theme (which was also prevalent in ID) I suppose thered have been a risk of what happened with Blade Trinity but still would've taken it over Beyond any day. also maybe the anniversary would've been more of a thing had there not been the disruption of the scrapping of Orci3/quick start over with Beyond

 

The only thing that would make me want to see an Orci Trek 3 is just to see how bad he'd shit the bed. With everything that he had done before and with THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2, I cannot imagine his Trek 3 being any better than what he did or BEYOND. The best stuff about those first two films had nothing to do with Orci's writing and everything to do with Abrams' energetic and jovial direction. You take out Abrams and just leave Orci to his devices and it only results in me not wanting to see it in theaters... which is how I felt about the news of Orci helming it. It would have been my first Trek film I ever skipped out on since becoming a fan. Heck, he's why I avoided THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2, aside from the toxic reviews it got.

 

Unmade films we've only heard snippets of will always get our imaginations going. One day we might get to read Orci's script and find out. Maybe it'll live up to what we imagine, or maybe we'll read it and see why Paramount and Bad Robot chose to go in a different direction.

Whatever the next Trek film is (production will likely start in 2020, once Paramount and Bad Robot part ways), in my mind it'll be compared to the very-very-nearly made SJ Clarkson Star Trek 4 where Kirk would have met his Dad. That's my emotionally-invested unmade movie, just like the William Shatner-featuring, Orci-directed version of Star Trek Beyond is @Khan 2.0 's.