Red Letter Media - The Last Jedi

Discussion in 'Star Wars' started by Kelthaz, Aug 29, 2018.

  1. Turd Ferguson

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    I've only seen the movie twice, so I've not had the chance to laboriously pore over every detail of the movie. The first time I never thought about it because I was still processing Luke's sacrifice to save the Resistance (which I thought was a pretty awesome scene, btw)

    The second time I watched it I was bored most of the way through the movie, so again, I didn't think too much about it. Don't get me wrong, I like a movie that keeps you thinking and guessing, but, Star Wars is one of those I turn my brain off for.
     
  2. DarKush

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    I thought the review was good, but late. Other people have covered many of these points, made similar arguments already. However there was still some good critiques of TLJ in this review. I don't think this was as comprehensive a breakdown as Red Letter Media's The Phantom Menace, which remains my favorite of the Plinkett reviews.
     
  3. fireproof78

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    And I ended up finding a video anyway, by accident:
     
  4. Campe

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    There are quite a few out there.
     
  5. johnjm22

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    This to me is the most interesting critique of the film. It avoids the nitpicking and tired complaints about Holdo/Canto Bight ect.

    It focuses on the philosophy of the film and whether or not it's moving Star Wars forward.
     
  6. Jedi Marso

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    Just on general principles along and regardless of whether I agree with the guy or not, why would I watch some internet-asshat's critique of a movie that lasts half as long as the actual movie? That's not a review- you might as well just pop in the film and give it the MST3K treatment.
     
  7. David cgc

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    Aside from the whole "fomenting extremism and spreading conspiracy theories" thing, making it easy for people to make things videos that don't need to be videos is the worst thing about the YouTube era. And, to be honest, the former is a subset of the latter. Videos make it easier to make bad arguments seem compelling, since you fill in a lot more of the blanks yourself, in a way you wouldn't accept if you were reading it.
     
  8. Turd Ferguson

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    ^Not to mention, RLM makes the arguments (for the most part) entertaining.

    "At this point, Palpatine has to flat out tell Anakin that he's a Sith Lord, because he won't take a hint!" :lol:
     
  9. johnjm22

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    The review is more entertaining than the movie.

    Speculating about where the franchise is going, following the behind the scenes, and seeing the fan/critic/media reaction of it all is more interesting than these dull mediocre SW films themselves.
     
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  10. fireproof78

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    Not only that, it creates an echo chamber, as a lot of criticism simply gets silenced or shouted down. It doesn't lead to discussion or an exchange of ideas.
     
  11. Hela

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    They did a review not long after the movie came outl. So really, the combined total probably is as long as the movie.

    Funny enough, Youtube did have a system once that tried to address that. They essentially made it so you could ‘tag’ other videos into your own. So you could respond to something, and the original poster (or people searching for the original video) would see you were responding directly to them.

    Of course, it quickly became obvious that people were just using it to air their personal feuds in public, and sic their followers on each other. YT got rid of it when that shit permanently trending made the front page unintelligible to newcomers or casuals, due to every recommended or highly viewed video being ‘Stupid Pettiness Video No #6.’

    And that’s why we fans can’t have nice things, and have to rely on recommendation algorithms that are frequently borked or purposefully gamed.
     
  12. fireproof78

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    As odd as it sounds, I don't really expect YouTube to police such things (beyond the usual inciting violence, flame wars, trolling, etc). YouTube has become a weird hub of content creation that sparks some interesting debate, but it really isn't a finally authority that it is touted to be. I'm not trying to minimize the content creators because a lot of them do some great work, and it takes work to make them. But, I think they need to be taken in perspective of the larger discussion.
     
  13. fireproof78

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    Hey, look, another video on the defense of "The Last Jedi." I don't need to say anything about it because I agree with everything he says ;)

     
  14. JD

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    And how hard was this to find?
     
  15. fireproof78

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    To be fair, it was shared on Reddit and I found it interesting. So, I have not searched YouTube yet to know exactly how easy it is to fine.
     
  16. Campe

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    I agree with this 100%.
     
  18. cooleddie74

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    I have issues with TLJ and it's my least-favorite of the four films released to date by Disney, but....seriously? You don't need a damn five-part miniseries to either defend or condemn TLJ. Bulk and length do not always denote quality of video nor of message.

    TLJ is nearly 2-1/2 hours long and full of filler. You think it sucks Bantha sack. Shouldn't the irony of your statement already be obvious in that regard?
     
  19. Gavin70

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    So if you die in Sydney they bury you in Canberra?
     
  20. Ithekro

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    Why not just catapult the body to Tasmania?