News Next Arrowverse Crossover to Include Batwoman

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  1. Christopher

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    Yeah, that's my thought. Sort of a "Brave New Metropolis" reality where authoritarian Superman rules the world. We saw location shooting of a scene with black-suited Superman and a big S-shield sign/statue/whatever out front of the stadium they use for STAR Labs exteriors.
     
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  2. Samurai8472

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    I didn’t realize it was Alex until Kara said “sister” chyler leigh looked completely different IMO
     
  3. Nerys Myk

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    How is "Chyler" pronounced?
     
  4. Christopher

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    Like "Kyler." Rhymes with Tyler, but with a K sound at the start.
     
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  6. Christopher

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    Well, not entirely, since it says Batman's only been gone 3 years, which makes me wonder why he was never brought up in the first 3-4 seasons of the Arrowverse (since it's looking pretty clear now that Batwoman will be on Earth-1). Although the bit in the article about Oliver considering Batman an urban legend could help explain that. I wonder if Kara will mention the Batman of her Earth.

    Honestly, this description reminds me a lot of the Birds of Prey TV series. In that, Batman had been missing for a fair number of years, and he and the villains he fought (mostly metahumans in that version) were considered urban legends because they'd fought their war in the shadows.
     
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    Interesting. Oliver Queen mentioned Bruce Wayne in the present tense more recently than three years, so that would indicate that Batman's absence from Gotham is not due to death. Maybe he got beat up so severely that he just can't do it anymore.

    Have they ever explained why there are no Kryptonians on Earth 1, 2 or 3? Did Krypton simply not explode in those universes? (They listened to Jor-El!)
     
  8. Christopher

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    Earth-38 seems to be the only one with any alien presence at all -- an odd anomaly, that it's just loaded with alien immigrants while other Earths we know of are alien-less. Although there was a reference to a Ferris Air test pilot mysteriously disappearing, implying that the Guardians and the Green Lantern Corps exist in the Earth-1 universe (Universe-1?).

    Hmm... Maybe Universe-1's Tomar-Re succeeded in delaying Krypton's destruction.
     
  9. Marc

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    Or nobody managed to get off-world before the planet exploded?
     
  10. Turtletrekker

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    Earth-X had Kryptonians.
     
  11. Christopher

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    One thing I've noticed is how many of the alien refugees on Earth-38 are from destroyed or war-devastated planets, and so I wonder, what is destroying them all? Is there some massive cosmic threat out there that isn't in play in Earth-1's universe? Maybe that's why there are so many alien refugees, and maybe the refugees come to Earth-38 because the worlds they'd usually go to in the other universes have been destroyed.
     
  12. Dick Whitman

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    I was thinking about my previous theory on a movie theater showing “Batman” in a episode of The Flash (1990). In terms of perpetuating the idea that Batman is an urban legend. What if Bruce Wayne secretly encourages, maybe finances highly fictional tv shows and movies about Batman? To create public doubts about whether he even exists. The Batsiginal would be dismissed a publicity stunt and/or tourist attraction.
     
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    Batwoman!!!

     
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  14. Christopher

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    I don't think that really makes sense, though, since the idea behind Batman is to strike fear into criminals. I think actively undermining people's belief in Batman's existence would work against that goal. Criminals need to believe he's real and watching them. Certainly it helps to maintain an air of mystery about just who and what he is and what he can do -- the more it's left to their imaginations, the more afraid they'll be -- but creating doubt about his very existence, or making him into pop-culture kitsch, would directly undermine the goal of being Batman.
     
  15. thribs

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    The closest we’ll ever get to Batman.
     
  16. Tuskin38

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    You don't know that
     
  17. Kirk Prime

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    It sure does sound like they are going the Birds of Prey route--a Batman show without Batman. I don't think that's a very good idea. I don't mind a show in Gotham not focusing on Batman, but the idea that he's missing or out of action is a little tired and lazy. They could easily do Batwoman as operating on her own without Batman. They may cross paths occasionally, but a city that could have millions of people can easily have two people, even heroes, not cross paths every week.

    Perfect example would be how they do things on Netflix. Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage--all operate in Manhattan, but in different neighborhoods so they don't cross paths very often.

    They could easily do that with Batwoman.
     
  18. thribs

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    Isn’t a Batman show without Batman Arrow already?
     
  19. Mage

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    With Batman being an urban legend explain enough, agreed. I mean, how many urban legens do you know about from other cities? Oliver and Barry hearing about him might simply be because Barry is a CSI and mentioned stuff he's heard through co-workers and what not.
    And as for Bruce Wayne being still around...... Maybe Bruce hung up the cowl.
     
  20. Tuskin38

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    No