Stage 9 gets cease and desist order from CBS

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  1. marsh8472

    marsh8472 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    It's dumb laws written to encourage innovation.
    I've won cases without a lawyer B-) they like to make people think you need them so you'll waste lots of money. People crack me up when they assume lawyers are worth what you think they know. I'm sure they would rather settle before getting into a battle over this. I'd just file a lawsuit for the fun of it.
     
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  3. fireproof78

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    I would laugh if they ran afoul of Fox after that.

    It's as fun as most law suits... :shrug:
     
  4. marsh8472

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  5. Jinn

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    That seems like a bit of an.... extreme solution...
     
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  6. Tuskin38

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    No
     
  7. fireproof78

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    A bit of an odd reaction to fighting copyright law don't you think?
     
  8. Professor Zoom

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    Cease and desist orders aren't filed, they are sent.
    Law suits are filed. Law suits that you would surely lose... And copyright violations come with statutory fines... so... this is a tremendously bad idea. But, good luck with it.

    They are not saying they HAVE to be licensed products, they are saying DON'T purchase UNlicsensed products. Ie, don't buy from people who are stealing IP that doesn't belong to them. CBS won't care if you make the costumes yourself. They don't want unlicensed 3rd parties profiting.

    Doesn't matter if they are profiting or not, if what they are doing is taking profit AWAY from the copyright owner. Essentially, giving something away for free damages the market.

    So, again, making a profit or not, doesn't protect you from copyright infringement.
     
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  9. Flowrellik

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    Either way, I find it rather sad CBS of all companies are that desperate to shut down a FAN GAME that's FREE. I guess it's all about money in the end...
     
  10. marsh8472

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  11. fireproof78

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    Once bitten twice shy as it were.

    Also, unlike fan films, fan games and the like are uncharted territory which CBS will need to demonstrate a willingness to protect or risk real contracts.

    Yes, it is about money. It's their property after all.
     
  12. Squiggy

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    Well, yes. They're a company not a charity.
     
  13. urbandefault

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    Copyright infringement has nothing to do with free speech. Zilch, zip, zero, nada.
     
  14. marsh8472

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    The Voyager project? Sounds intriguing.
     
  16. Jinn

    Jinn Mistress of the Chaotic Energies Rear Admiral

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    If I upload The Wrath of Khan on YouTube and CBS takes it down, does it take away my free speech?
     
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  17. marsh8472

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    Actually youtube takes it down at CBS's request. Because youtube owns the server they have a right to control whatever content on their site they wish.
     
  18. Jinn

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    So, is YouTube taking away my free speech then?
     
  19. fireproof78

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    Yes, they are. ;)

    And CBS doesn't have to make the request. Any one can request it be taken down for copyright violation.
     
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  20. marsh8472

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    Yes but they're allowed to do it because of the 5th amendment: "nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation" Because you're talking about youtube taking action against you on their own property it's like someone is legally allowed to kick you out of their own home . It's a separate question from the stage 9 issue because you don't own youtube.com. Stage 9 made 3D artwork and not copied verbatim and posted it on the website that they own.