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  1. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    It will be trash all its own!

    Besides, if they weren't called Caitians on screen... well you all know the drill.
     
  2. Jinn

    Jinn Mistress of the Chaotic Energies Rear Admiral

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    Well, since the Caitians were never called Caitians on screen we don't have to assume that a possible reimagined alien that's referred to as a Caitian belongs to the species that we commonly refer to as Caitian.
     
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    There's no way in Hell that they were ever going to make those two gorgeous women look like actual pussy's for Kirk to hump in a major motion picture...



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  4. Tuskin38

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    So, M'Ress isn't canonically a caitian?

    Her species was never said on screen in TAS.
     
  5. BillJ

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    Correct!
     
  6. BillJ

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    Neither were the Saurians ever called Saurians on screen (that I'm aware of). So, unless these new "Saurians" are identified as such on screen, then they can technically be anything.
     
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  7. Tuskin38

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    That is very narrow point of view.
     
  8. BillJ

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    It is actually a very wide open point-of-view. It doesn't unnecessarily chain future creators to anything that isn't considered important.
     
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  9. Tuskin38

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    There is a lot of info we take for granted that didn't come from 'on screen' canon.

    Ship class names, ship lengths, species names.. Alright that actually isn't a lot.
     
  10. BillJ

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    It is called Fanon. Like Spock being the first Vulcan in Starfleet. Oops...
     
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    Except the examples I used have come from people who worked on the show.

    No one who worked on the show said Spock was the first.
     
  12. Jinn

    Jinn Mistress of the Chaotic Energies Rear Admiral

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    Bill has been here since 2001, were there many discussions back in the day about how T'Pol couldn't possibly exist since Spock is the first Vulcan in Starfleet?

    Also, Kirk being the youngest captain is another such fanon thingy.
     
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  13. BillJ

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    You obviously weren't here when Enterprise was on the air. Many thought that was canon. Many people were gnashing their teeth over it, wanting to go to war with Berman and Braga.
     
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    I edited my post.
     
  15. BillJ

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    Yes to both.
     
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  16. Tuskin38

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    Wow, Startrek.com mentions both of those things.

    Who runs that site?
     
  17. BillJ

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    It doesn't matter. The rule of thumb has always been what's on screen is canon.
     
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  18. Tuskin38

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    Except people who actually worked on the show are a lot more reliable then fans.

    Anyways the whole 'on screen' is canon thing is an invention by the fans, I don't think there was ever 'official' rules by CBS/Paramount.
     
  19. BillJ

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    Well, until the next set of writers come in the door.

    Pretty sure it was somewhere along the line. But there are people around who have more knowledge of such things.
     
  20. Tuskin38

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    That's the nature of every franchise out there.