how do you account for all of the numerous canon violations in this show?

"How do you account for all the numerous canon violations in this show"?

I dont

 

I don't. the show entertains me. That's all I care about.

 

What??? That's just crazy talk!

 

It's your only Star Trek in almost 20 years, no?

I guess the JJ movies, but I took you to be talking about TV.

As for the question: canon matters. Once canon starts to crack apart, you end up with a nonsensical universe nobody can follow, where it becomes impossible to escape the gravity of founding tropes because nothing else has any staying power. (See: comic books) Artistic license accounts for some flexibility, but the cumulative effect of artistic license can eventually do real damage to the ability of individual storytellers to tell coherent, dramatically compelling stories within the universe. You end up instead with a lot of faffing about trying to explain what happened to the last retcon, which was a retcon of another retcon's retcon (see: Crisis on Infinite Earths and all sequels; Star Trek 2009).

That said, I belong to the school that says all canon violations can be accounted for given time, imagination, and complete information. I don't like Discovery, but I still don't think it's crossed any lines that can't be plausibly explained away by fanon or future canon. What we are still lacking is complete information. It's impossible for us to begin to explain away the, uh, surprising technology of the 2250s and things like the Spore Drive until we know where Discovery is going. They may even surprise us and explain the discrepancies themselves! Enterprise invalidated four years of fan theories about "why are Enterprise Vulcans so different from TOS Vulcans?" by writing a fantastic three-part episode that happened to explain the massive shifts in Vulcan society starting in 2154.

So, for now, I'm trying to patch small holes like the mutiny comment with fan-splanations, but I'm not even going to start theorizing about the big stuff until at least the end of the first season. For all we know, the first season ends with a "Year of Hell" reset button and they all wake up in pastel uniforms on a Constitution-class starship in the first episode of Season 2.

 

I just want an entertaining show. I don’t care about the specifics of fictional technology or history, it’s meaningless.

 

In what way this series breaks canon? If it's design change then it can be explain by the show updating to current generation tech.

 

Canon in Star Trek has been rewritten throughout all the years it has existed. That basicly implies it really doesn't. Klingon looked different in TOS than they did in the movies. Canon was already rewritten then, a decade after the show ended. It's not the holy grail fanatics say it is.

 

no canon was violated during filming

 

Since 1999, when DS9 ended, I've also liked:

VOY Seasons 6 and 7 *
Star Trek (2009)
Star Trek Beyond

But I'm a lot more into DSC than any of those. By a pretty gigantic margin.

* I stopped watching VOY in 1999. A couple of episodes in Season 5 really turned me off and this was the year Ron Moore came onto the show, left, and I sided with him. Especially after he opened up about his experiences at the beginning of 2000. But I re-watched the show in 2008, revised my opinion upward, and saw the last two seasons then. VOY is kind of like New England weather. If you don't like it, wait until the next episode. As a result, VOY is much better as a viewing experience once you know which episodes to avoid.

So: The only Star Trek I haven't liked in the past 20 years is ENT (which I just can't get into at all, it's so dull, boring, and not what I'm interested in) and Star Trek Into Darkness (but Benedict Cumberbatch has nothing to do with it. I don't fault him. He's a great actor. I especially liked him in The Imitation Game). EDIT: Oh, and Nemesis. I totally forgot about that. But you can't blame me.

Well, you were right about two-thirds of them, anyway.

 

I do not give a sh!t about it frankly!
I like this new show!

 

STD takes place in the same alternate reality as all the events of NuTrek films, therefore has no impact on Prime Trek.

 

*sighs*

 

You're forgetting the dozens of times when the show runners have said otherwise?

 

It can't, the events of the timeline don't match.

 

The question is how do I account for the canon violations, this is how I do and sleep all the better for it.

 

The producers have said, "Trust us, when it seems like we're breaking canon we aren't...it will all make sense".

So...let's see. Will they keep their word, or is it just to keep you watching 'til you forget they said it?

 

what canon violations???
so far anyone here failed to come up with anything in DISCO that actually contradicts anything from PU lore.

 

Today's episode is a great example of tying up more loose ends than we even realized were dangling out there...

Really, I don't think any other Trek spinoff has achieved anything comparable yet.

Timo Saloniemi

 

What canon violations? Discovery is in another universe/timeline/reality/continuity of its own.

 

Except it's been said time and time again that it isn't.