In A Mirror, Darkly

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  1. Athena28

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    It is so interesting how they worked a TOS ep. into Enterprise.
     
  2. Tenacity

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    Much better than how they worked a TNG episode into the last episode.
     
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  3. Reanok

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    Star Trek Discovery recent episodes has story arc ties into the Enterprise In a Mirror darkly episodes.
     
  4. BillJ

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    Vulcans were kinda dumb. They had been studying humanity for at least a century. What did they expect to happen when they landed in Montana?
     
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    Especially that TOS episode "The Tholian Web" was so terrible, and never made much sense to me. Gotta love the producers shying away from the command tunics in part II; if presented accurately and in hi Def it would've exposed the big lie that the tunic was gold. Which we know it wasn't.
     
  6. BillJ

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    They did show the command tunic. When Archer and Reed move the dead captain away from the space between the captain's chair and forward consoles. He was wearing gold. :techman:
     
  7. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Maybe MU Archer was right, and the Vulcans of this universe really WERE spies prepping for an invasion?
     
  8. BillJ

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    Pretty poor invasion plan. And they should've been able to overwhelm post-WWIII Earth. Though, why would they even wait for humans to create warp to invade, if that was indeed the plan?

    Much like the regular version, Mirror Archer was clearly an idiot.
     
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    Mike Sussman says the Vulcans weren't actually an invasion force, but he has no doubt that the history books record that they were.(I love it when writers speculate on their own stories as if they aren't fiction)
     
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    He's a Swedish tennis player isn't he?
     
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  11. Mr. Laser Beam

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    You think that's weird, try the 'Department of Temporal Investigations' novels... one of them has

    A Borg Tyrannosaurus Rex

    Oh, how I wish I was making that up... :lol:
     
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    I'm way behind on novels, but I want to see that in a canonical setting now. :devil: :rommie:
     
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    That's dumb and dumberer.
     
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    After recent Discovery episodes, I re-watched "In a Mirror Darkly." I think, despite the interruption to the overall story Enterprise was trying to tell, it was a great move to tell a purely Mirror Universe tale. "Mirror, Mirror" and all of the DS9 episodes played up the "Our universe meeting the Mirror Universe" angle. This two-parter didn't and it was nice.

    Archer was less over-the-top than playing, "Evil means angry." T'Pol had her moments of anger, too, which was interesting, but I'm not sure if it fit. Could the Vulcans find the Terran Empire's way of doing things illogical, but also find it illogical to fight against them. Kind of a contradiction, but I think Soval backs this up.

    I'm partway through re-watching "Mirror, Mirror" and in it, McCoy notes that the same spot where he spilled acid in "our" universe is there in the Mirror Universe. It's interesting what's similar (the acid spot, characters existing) and what's different. I think Basil Exposition said it best:

     
  15. Timo

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    I love what DSC is doing to this thing, in a sort of look-at-that-house-of-cards fashion. They're juggling a TOS event that has been transposed in time and flipped to an alternate universe, then let to ripen for a full century, and is now studied from ten years in the past of TOS. Forget about time "loops", this is the sort of spacetime pretzel that makes the Doctor throw up his/her arms and evoke "timey-wimey"!

    It's an in-universe tradition at this point, too: a spinoff doesn't shy away from embracing a hut of cards decades out of date, now twice over, but carefully solidifies it with a layer of shiny veneer. Here's looking forward to the day the next spinoff revisits the DSC revisit of ENT revisit of TOS, while neatly tying in DS9 somehow...

    ...While not making the universe look small. That's the most wondrous thing about "IaM,D" and now DSC, the feel of not just a single limitless universe but two.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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    I very much enjoyed two parter and always considered it fun and a pleasure to watch.
     
  17. Scylla

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    I'm a TOS purist. Anything that came after isn't Trek, it was just something for the masses, and I refused to watch it. Then one day I walked away from the television. When I walked back in, IAMD was on. There was the original Enterprise! The corridors, the uniforms! I thought that maybe, someone actually got it! TOS AND the mirror universe? This was the show that got me watching Enterprise.
     
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  18. Athena28

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    I just finished Part 2, for the first time. [I enjoyed Part 1 more.] Why was the Gorn there? Did I miss something? I don't see how it advanced the plot. It seemed as if they put it in just to say, hey, look at us. We have a Gorn.
     
  19. Mr. Laser Beam

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    When the Tholians of the mirror universe originally got ahold of the Defiant, they assigned a team of slaves to cannibalize the ship for all its technology and spare parts. The Gorn was the overseer of those slaves.
     
  20. Athena28

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    Yeah. I guess so. It just seemed a bit out of place to me.