Voyager: Architects of Infinity by Kirsten Beyer delayed?

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  1. Christopher

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    Well, they did make the mistake of doing another Malon episode after a pretty massive jump that should've gone thousands of parsecs past their territory. And the very existence of the New Talax colony 40,000 light years from Talax is highly problematical, unless they managed to use a Sikarian trajector or the Vaadwaur subspace corridors, neither of which was suggested in the episode.

    Revisiting the Hirogen made more sense, though, as they were established as a nomadic people who'd been spreading across the quadrant for centuries.
     
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    New cover now showing on Amazon.com
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    The Aventine is in it. I have to get it now.
     
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    Fantastic cover art. I'm looking forward to reading this book when it comes out in a few weeks.
     
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    Not really, it gets explained in story.
     
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    Lack of Slipstream ships mad enough to go to the Delta Quadrant I assume? :)
     
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    I don't remember how that was described in-story. Anyone here recently re-read that part?

    In any case, Pocket's art department either doesn't care or doesn't have the budget.

    The new nacelles do show up on Cross Cult's German edition covers.
     
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    And are ugly as could be. :ack:
     
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    IIRC, the books never really said whether Voyager had a lot of external differences when she was rebuilt for Full Circle following Destiny (aside from a stray mention that it was now rigged for reversible saucer-separation). Mark Rademaker, the artist behind the Vesta-class, started work on a Voyager refit, but never finished it. The German novels made Photoshops inspired by his in-progress shots, but the US covers always used the ship as it appeared on the show. Here are some images of the incomplete redesign that inspired the German covers;

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/yard2380/15897859275/

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9tMlLfaLLY4/Te8hGKUOxmI/AAAAAAAACd8/nADh0Q9AjzU/s1600/voytop2.jpg
     
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    The Vesta was assigned to Full Circle after Janeway had Farkas and the other survivors of the ships that were destroyed in the Omega continuum, put it back together when Janeway found that it had been disassembled and mothballed following the trial runs (reminiscent of what happened with the shuttle Enteprise—-although the Enterprise never flew in space).

    As for Voyagers nacelles, one nacelle was ripped off during the Battle of Azure Nebula in Destiny.
     
  15. thribs

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    In Destiny it says that Voyager had its nacelles broken off during the battle and I saw those nacelle pictures in memory beta and just assumed that was the case.
    I’m happy if they didn’t change them. Keeps it more in line with Star Trek Online. :)
     
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    The Enterprise shuttle was only designed to test the gliding aspects of the shuttle. It couldn’t go into space even if it wanted to.
    In the Star Trek universe, I believe it did go into space. It’s the main reason why the NX-01 was called it and why all the other NX ships are named after them. Columbia, Challenger, Discovery, Atlantis and Endeavour.
     
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    I just read the snynopsis and it looks like it involves in the Krenim which is interesting. In Star Trek Online using Krenim technology lead to the creation of the Sphere Builders and started one of the main fronts of the Temporal Cold War.
    Will be interesting to see what they do here if and when I get to the Voyager series.

    Also, I thought Janeway was Dead. Destiny implied that she was which I had no problem with as I saw it being her punishment for changing the timeline. Anyway, at least she can’t annoy Picard in the Delta Quadrant.
     
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    Re: STO.

    The New Talax in STO is not the same as the novelverse asteroid colony.
    In STO, the Talaxians abandoned the New Talax asteroid and travelled back, closer to their home territory. They settled on a larger asteroid in the Entaba system (check Star Charts). With the help of the Alpha Quadrant Alliance, Neelix and his people fend off Malon polluting their targeted class M colony, “New Talax”. The planet does not reappear in the storyline, and the Entaba asteroid is maintained. The Talaxians of Neelix are among the first members of the Delta Alliance.
     
  19. Christopher

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    Well, that's literally twice as dumb as the show's version, because it means they'd need to have made that immense 40,000-ly journey twice. Voyager only got that far in 7 years because it kept getting to leap over huge chunks of distance thanks to Kes superpowers or a stolen transwarp coil or a convenient wormhole. It would've taken them 40 years by normal means, and their ship was far faster than anything the Talaxians would've had. Which is why that was such a stupid, stupid episode, because it trivialized the journey whose extreme difficulty had been the defining premise of the show for the previous 7 seasons.
     
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    Janeway was killed off in TNG: Before Dishonor (which is a book you either hate or love, there are no in-between options), absorbed by a living Borg cube, then she temporarily became a pseudo-Borg-Queen (or something along those lines) until they destroyed the Borg cube (after it ate Pluto, just roll with it). She later returned in VGR: The Eternal Tide which is a lot better than Before Dishonor.
     
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