Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x10 - "Despite Yourself"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Jan 7, 2018.

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  1. Commander Richard

    Commander Richard Yo! Man! Premium Member

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    Where are we? I was thinking about that the other day and I realized that we're in a whole new generation of Trek. They could have called the new show 'Star Trek: The Third Generation'. Let's put this in perspective. When TNG started, Trek had been off the air for18 years and when Discovery came along, Trek had been off the air for 12. Not quite as long but almost comparable. Doesn't feel like it does it. The TNG/DS9/VOY era is over and now we have a new Trek that's very much a product of modern television while still remaining Trek. Opinion among fans covers a wide spectrum. Many feel that the show has really picked up after a weak start and many just aren't feeling it. Then you have every kind of commentary in between, along with a lot of good debate. And it may not be "event television" for most, but it's doing well enough for CBS and Netflix to keep it going for the foreseeable future.

    Where are we? We're about to begin the last stretch of season 1 with the USS Discovery finding itself in unfamiliar territory. Rumors abound about where they are, so let's see what actually comes to pass.

    Where are we? Poor Captain Lorca and his crew are asking that very same question. They'll soon find out.

     
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  2. Uhura's Song

    Uhura's Song Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Alternate dimension or possible time travel. Forward or back?

    For the record on the timeline, if you include the movies:
    1) TOS = 1966-1969
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    2) TAS = 1973-1974
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    3) The Motion Picture = 1979
    4) The Wrath of Kahn = 1982
    5) The Search For Spock = 1984
    6) The Voyage Home = 1986
    7) TNG = 1987-1994
    8) The Final Frontier = 1989
    9) The Undiscovered Country = 1991
    10) DS9 = 1993-1999
    11) Generations = 1994
    12) VOY = 1995-2001
    13) First Contact = 1996
    14) Insurrection = 1998
    15) ENT = 2001-2005
    16) Nemesis = 2002
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    17) Star Trek (reboot) = 2009
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    18) Into Darkness = 2013
    19) Beyond = 2016
    20) DISC = 2017-current

    Point being, only 4 instances of 3 full years with no Trek since TOS.

    #1) 1970-72. TOS to TAS gap. 3 yrs.
    #2) 1975-1978. TAS to TMP. 4 yrs.
    #3) 2006-2008. ENT to Reboot. 3 yrs.
    #4) 2010-2012. Reboot to Darkness. 3 yrs.

    While it has been a while for TV Trek (11 years absent), the move to "new" Trek has been happening for a while.

    DS9 started the more serialized approach with the war vs the Dominion. Enterprise carried it on with the Xindi. Discovery is the culmination.

    The reboot movies signaled cannon is not safe. While I do mot think Discovery has violated cannon outside of the visuals for the most part (and they should do it there), the only Trek we have had since Entetprise has been doing it for 3 movies straight.
     
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  3. Wetworth

    Wetworth Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    My theory is that they were already in the mirror universe an accidentally jumped into ours.
     
  4. The Habs Fan

    The Habs Fan Commodore Commodore

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    Watching it in Canada so spoilers follow (since it starts at 8 up here):

    Great episode so far though none of the twists are different than what the majority have predicted so far. It is the mirror universe, Terran Empire and everything, and Ash is definitely Voq (though it hasn’t explicitly been said yet). And Tilly is indeed Captain in the mirror universe.
     
  5. The Habs Fan

    The Habs Fan Commodore Commodore

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    Oh shit it’s actually

    a sequel to In A Mirror Darkly. They’re going after the USS Defiant.
     
  6. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    those Terran uniforms are amazing
     
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  7. GeekUSACarl

    GeekUSACarl The Last Starfighter Fleet Captain

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    I'm really diggin this so far.
     
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  8. Titus Andronicus

    Titus Andronicus Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I AM FLOORED.

    In a good way....wow, what an episode so far.
     
  9. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    they forgot to give the Doctor a Terran empire uniform
     
  10. MarsWeeps

    MarsWeeps Fleet Captain Premium Member

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    The Defiant - Here's what a Constitution class Starship looks like - at least the outline.

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  11. Titus Andronicus

    Titus Andronicus Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Jeez they aren't pulling any punches tonight.
     
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  12. GeekUSACarl

    GeekUSACarl The Last Starfighter Fleet Captain

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    Pulling out all the stops.

    this is insane. Tilly is such a badass when being a badass. I may be in love.
     
  13. timtonruben359

    timtonruben359 Captain Captain

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    Dr. Culber appears to be a goner :(
     
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  14. KennyB

    KennyB I have spoken............ Moderator

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    HOLY SHIT. REPEATEDLY.
     
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  15. GeekUSACarl

    GeekUSACarl The Last Starfighter Fleet Captain

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    Didnt see that comming at all. Kinda bummed
     
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  16. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Admiral Admiral

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    I knew it! I fucking knew it! I was right!

    I'm at the 15:37-mark. Back to the rest of the episode.
     
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  17. jespah

    jespah Taller than a Hobbit Moderator

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    Maybe not. I wonder if we'll get the MU version instead.
     
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  18. tomalak301

    tomalak301 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Way to come back with a vengeance show. That episode was really filling.
     
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  19. Titus Andronicus

    Titus Andronicus Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Wow...
    Goodness, sucks to see him get tortured in an agonizer booth. With that said...the Lorca is from the mirro universe theory almost makes MORE sense after tonight.
     
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  20. Shanndee

    Shanndee Commodore Commodore

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    Wow. I officially love this series!