Spoilers THE ORVILLE S1, E12: "MAD IDOLATRY" - SEASON FINALE

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  1. DonIago

    DonIago Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Um, no, it isn't. An agnostic doesn't know whether there's a higher power, while an atheist (to my understanding) believes there is no higher power. Two very different things.
     
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  2. Bad Thoughts

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    Of course, but when one sets up a tree in one's home, one is engaging in a form of religious practice, regardless of whether or not that person has recontextualize the meaning of the practice.
     
  3. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Admiral Premium Member

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    Cultural Appropriation! Outrage!
    :D
     
  4. Serveaux

    Serveaux Fleet Admiral Premium Member

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    It's not a religious practice if one doesn't understand it in that context. It's just a tree - an ornamental tree.
     
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  5. Ovation

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    No. There is already such a degree of secularism surrounding Christmas that a tree does NOT need to be consciously “recontextualized” in order to avoid a religious connotation. It’s only a “religious practice” if there is religious intent.
     
  6. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

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    I'm an Atheist. Here's my Pagan Christmas tree:

    [​IMG]

    I also have a Dream Catcher hanging on my wall and a statue of the Egyptian god of wisdom on my TV.

    I love Cultural Appropriation. We used to call it "the Melting Pot" in more liberal times. :mallory:
     
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  7. Satron

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    Your understanding is incorrect, I'm afraid.
     
  8. Satron

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    MERRY CHRISTMAS!
     
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  9. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

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    ^^ Same to you. :D
     
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  10. Bad Thoughts

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    Whatever makes you feel better. Happy Holidays!

    Actually, Good Yule!
     
  11. Satron

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    Actually, it is Christmas. And I wish you a happy Christmas, too.
     
  12. Bad Thoughts

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    And if I don't celebrate Christmas (see previous posts).
     
  13. Satron

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    You are free to not celebrate Christmas. It's still Christmas time in all Western countries and the Christian world. As an atheist I look forward to celebrating Christmas with my family.
     
  14. Bad Thoughts

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    Apparently you didn't look back, because you would know how inappropriate it would be to greet me so.
     
  15. Satron

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    It is inappropriate to wish someone a Merry Christmas during Christmas time?
     
  16. BillJ

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    It is if you know they don't celebrate that holiday due to their own religious practices.
     
  17. Bad Thoughts

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    He could have looked. He could type in my username to see what I have posted in this thread. He would know what I do. His responses rests somewhere between indifference to willful insult.
     
  18. 137th Gebirg

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    Merry Christmahannakwanza to all! (Or whatever you're in to) :)
     
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  19. DonIago

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    A bit rude to simply tell someone they're wrong without providing an explanation.
     
  20. Serveaux

    Serveaux Fleet Admiral Premium Member

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    Indifference is not a mortal sin. Even amongst us atheists. :lol:

    Now I'm confusing different posters at times. I could have sworn that the assertion that a decorated tree is necessarily a religious symbol was made by the same poster who's asserting that it's Christmas season now whether one observes it or not. Very porous boundaries between some apparently opposed notions.
     
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