Spoilers R rated content - what does it add?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Smoked Salmon, Nov 16, 2017.

  1. ralfy

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    I was referring to STD.
     
  2. ralfy

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    And others.
     
  3. fireproof78

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    So, majority rule?
     
  4. Vger23

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    Not enough "others" for anyone to really care or take seriously though
     
  5. MacLeod

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    You don't need an R rating for those things to happen they can happen just as easily if you impose limitations.

    But couldn't part of the problem be the US ratings system its self. As I said earlier nothing I've seen would get it more than a 15 certificate in the UK as this is what is allowed.

    http://www.bbfc.co.uk/what-classification/15

    Or perhaps us Brits are just a bit more relaxed about such things.
     
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  6. jaime

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    I think the Klingon bosoms scene would get higher because there’s a couple of quick flash shots and it’s interposed with violence which is a big no no for the BBFC.
     
  7. ralfy

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    Of, course! As mentioned earlier, it all boils down to earnings.
     
  8. fireproof78

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    Good to see GR's vision is alive and well.
     
  9. ralfy

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    Actually, it's a vision of all for-profit corporations.
     
  10. fireproof78

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    Like I said, GR's vision.
     
  11. Paradise City

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    I watched all the episodes and I didn't register the profanity when it occurred, lol, and the so-called "bosom scene" was so unremarkable that it didn't register with me either. I was more interested in Tyler's trauma really to spot that a highly made up Klingon was disrobed. In retrospect, it wasn't really more scandalous than the cat-woman table dancer in Star Trek V. I had to log on here to note the controversy.

    At a push, I prefer they didn't do it as a minor matter of personal taste. But it didn't effect my enjoyment of it and it wouldn't faze my family, young or old alike, either.
     
  12. ralfy

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    For-profit corporations maximize profits not to honor whatever vision GR had.
     
  13. fireproof78

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    GR wanted to make money is the point since it is being missed.
     
  14. ralfy

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    How is making money being missed?
     
  15. fireproof78

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    It's that making money was a part of GR"s vision that is being missed. You mention that it is just about earnings, and not "whatever vision GR had." The thing is, GR wanted to make money-thus "his vision."

    ETA-TL: DR tongue in cheek comment devolved in to way to serious discussion.
     
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  16. Crazy Eddie

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    I remember a quote from Majrel Barret but don't remember the context:
    "Gene had this idea that he wanted to be a writer... that he wanted to make money from his writing."

    Making money IS THE VISION. There really wasn't a whole lot more to it than that. Yes, he wanted to write a good story and look to the future and all, but ultimately his goal was to sell a TV series to the networks and create a brand that could stand out from the competition. He felt his vision was "superior" than other visions mainly because he thought/hoped it would make more money than the others.
     
  17. ralfy

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    A vision is a concept formed in one's imagination. The concept of earning money doesn't require imagination.
     
  18. ralfy

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    If a vision is a concept formed in one's imagination, then making money as a vision will only apply to those who live in societies where people don't make money.
     
  19. GeekUSACarl

    GeekUSACarl The Last Starfighter Fleet Captain

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    Well I'm personally against a rating system. I think they are stupid. I'm ok with listing what's categorically in a film, but to slap a state decided age label on a film is batsht to me. Tell me what's In it and ill educate mine on what I want them to see.

    so yeah I think the issue is with ratings systems itself. But I can't change them so, I just have to live with and within america's prudish and content fearful nature.
     
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  20. Captain of the USS Averof

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    "Making money = Gene’s Vision" joke...

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