News Harberts: Reconciling Discovery With The Original Series

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by AutoAdmin, Nov 20, 2017.

  1. AutoAdmin

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    A new news article has been published at TrekToday:

    Star Trek: Discovery is set a decade before the original series, and Aaron Harberts spoke recently about the challenge of reconciling the...

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  2. gblews

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    Kind of argues against the notion that Burnham will ever become a captain, or be reinstated into Starfleet, or regain her previous rank, or any rank for that matter, in the future.
     
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  3. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Starfleet has thousands of personnel, we don't hear about all of them.
     
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  4. Jayson1

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    If you desire for the show to be part of a shared universe this is good news in that they are basically saying they are going to do in-universe ways to explain the differences. If they are going to the shared universe way I like it though I still don't see why someone wouldn't want to go the reboot way and make things even more unpredictable. A cynical side of me thinks they might just be humoring the fans and the more fun cynical side of me thinks they might be creating a false idea for a big shocking surprise on the level of Hitler being killed in "Inglorious Bastards." You go along thinking canon is all fine and out of nowhere the Enterprise shows up and explodes and then you look who did it and it's a a Borg Cube!

    Jason
     
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  5. Brainsucker

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    They ask our opinion / idea about the Spore Drive and how it's fate in the future. So what's your idea / opinion? My idea is set that Spore Drive need Tardigrace (the monster) or humans to operate perfectly. But the operation can cause bad health to the "Driver". Because this technology is violate Human Right, so they abandon it. Maybe it still there in Picard Era, but limited only to Section 31. A group that has no human right limitation to finish their missions.
     
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  6. donners22

    donners22 Commodore Commodore

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    I just hope they don't feel the need to explain visuals. DS9 and Enterprise unnecessarily complicated things in that regard.
     
  7. Brainsucker

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    Yes, I agree. They don't need to explain the visuals.
     
  8. Jayson1

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    I got a few theories on what might happen with the spore drive:

    1 The tech will be made top secret like mentioned.

    2 Nothing will happen because the show is in a similar but different timeline

    3 The spore drive will be scrapped but elements of it will pay a key part in Starfleet's efforts to create Transwarp drive and might influence Scotty's transporter theory about doing it over long distance we find out about in "Star Trek." I know that is set in a different timeline but we know Scotty in the prime timeline also came up with it because Spock mentions it.
    4 It will be used to go back in time and alter the timeline to what it looks like in the others shows. The idea being that the timeline we use to follow was a altered timeline all the time. The crew and the ship still stays the same though and either lives out their lives in this new timeline or they go back and fix the timeline which in turn makes the first set of shows to now be in a divergent timeline much like Kelvin Universe or they are completely erased though I think they wouldn't do this because people's head would explode!:)

    Jason
     
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    I think that the ability to use Spore drive needs to be destroyed completely. Otherwise we will forever speculate on why didnt they save the Voyager with Spore Drive. Or do other similar stuff. Even if it will eventually kill the user, it would still be worth it to save shipful of people.

    Maybe they will end up destroying it? Either by purpose or by accident. Maybe the Terran Empire in Mirror Universe learns about it and they need to permanently "burn up" the spore network to prevent Mirror Universe from invading the Prime universe.
     
  10. galad2003

    galad2003 Commander Red Shirt

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    The Mycelle(sp?) network is home to unimaginable horrors and repeated use weakens the fabric between this universe and the network allowing them to escape into this universe. Use of the spore drive turns out to be a bigger danger and threat than not using it. The information is classified and buried. Other races that try to duplicate the tech soon realize the same thing and that is why it is not mentioned again.
     
  11. Nightowl1701

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    If not for Cadet Will Decker apparently being on board, I'd say the solution is simple: Like Sam Beckett, the Discovery NEVER comes home from that 'one last jump' & spends the rest of its existence wandering from one alternate universe to the next. Hence Starfleet writes off the spore drive as a very expensive failure & doesn't look back.

    Now, though, we've got to get at least Decker & Tilly back home...
     
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  12. Kor

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    When did they indicate that Decker is on board?

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  13. Takeru

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    I really don't think there's much to reconcile. It's really just the spore drive, Michael needs no explanation, Spock never bothered to mention his parents until they beamed abord the Enterprise, Sybock was never mentioned before and after his one appearance, Spock not talking about his family except when he literally runs into them is already canon.
     
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  14. Jinn

    Jinn Mistress of the Chaotic Energies Rear Admiral

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    Quick! We need Peter Quill to assemble a team of heroes to combat this weakening that will eventually be part of the reason of a rift opening that leads to a universe overtaken by tentacle monsters from outside the universes that want to invade out universe. Geez, I miss Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning working on Guardians of the Galaxy...
     
  15. Serveaux

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    If one takes the interview at all seriously as a source of information, then it's really saying some dumb things. Better to assume that the producers continue to blow smoke rather than reveal things they don't want to talk about.
     
  16. galad2003

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    The different look of the Klingon's and their ships need to be explained. I would accept a statement from producers that they just wanted to make their own look. I would be unhappy about this explanation but at least it is an explanation. Saying this is the same universe then having such a radical different look bothers me.

    Spock never mentioning he had a foster sister is no big deal. He just never discussed it.
     
  17. shakham

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    I never like the "Klingon offshoot" explanation that Enterprise left us with. I would have preferred just believing that we didn't have the budget for fancier makeup and dirt was cheap.

    I'm fine with the different ridged Klingons. As for hair, maybe shaving bald is a Klingon fashion of the time.

    I agree about Burnham. No big deal.
     
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    It's a huge universe. Big enough for plenty of inconsistencies.
     
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  19. Jayson1

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    I have a crazy theory but what if Burnham IS Spock? Spock while dying sort of dreams of the life he had on the ship he served on before "Enterprise" and a life in which he choose a more human path. The woman he see's himselfas is his late wife who was also human, Georgiou has taken on the role of Amanda. The tech is mixed up as is the Klingons because his dying mind is confusing future tech with older tech that was really used. Tyler represents his desire for human love and his issue's of identity also represent Spock's own feelings on the subject as a man who was torn between two worlds. He is still trying to get the approval of Sarek. Perhaps this is how a Katra actually works when it isn't passed on to another.

    Jason
     
  20. Ronald Held

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    I believe they haven't a detailed path to reconcile with TOS just some vague ideas.