Spoilers marsh8472's Consolidated Continuity Thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by marsh8472, Nov 9, 2017.

?

Why does warp drive in Star Trek Discovery look so different?

  1. Starfleet is employing advanced propulsion technology on their ships in addition to the Spore Drive

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. Star Trek Discovery is showing correctly, every other series looks abnormal actually

    1 vote(s)
    4.8%
  3. Nothing is wrong at all, everything is consistent everywhere

    10 vote(s)
    47.6%
  4. Discovery is in a seperate timeline from TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT

    3 vote(s)
    14.3%
  5. Star Trek Discovery's visual effect of the warp drive is incorrect

    1 vote(s)
    4.8%
  6. Other

    6 vote(s)
    28.6%
  1. pst

    pst Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2010
    Location:
    los angeles
    also i get the desire to make the division colors metallic and that resulted in boiling yellow, red and blue down to gold, bronze and silver. but they could just have easily made the division colors metallic yellow, metallic red and metallic blue and people like me wouldn't be so tripped up.

    i totally appreciate the bold, detailed approach to these uniforms. they're striking, they make an impression. my less-trekkie friends really dug them and were admiring all the little touches, like the deltas on the boots. but i was happier when michael, ash and saru were running around in their away team jumpsuits without all that flashy junk.
     
  2. marsh8472

    marsh8472 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2016
    The badges come with built in communicators in the 24th century. Why didn't they just put that in Discovery too? The flip phone stuff is antiquated even by today's standards.
     
  3. pst

    pst Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2010
    Location:
    los angeles
    because this is iconic:
    [​IMG]
    i think they should do something like they did with the kelvin uniforms: not black trousers, just darker trousers.
     
  4. XCV330

    XCV330 Premium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2017
    Location:
    XCV330
    We don't actually know how often uniforms changed between USS Franklin and USS Kelvin. for all we know in backstory, Starfleet was churning out wildly different uniform/patch/badge combinations every few years. Maybe after the worst of the lot, the TMP pajamas, they finally gave up and settled with the crimson uniforms for 6 or 7 decades.


    edited to add: I still miss my old flip phone
     
  5. zar

    zar Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2010
    Oh, so you are serious. Okay, wow.

    I have to say, I think DSC has brought its concept art to life better than any Trek so far.

    The gold, bronze and silver actually closely match the uniform colors on Pike's Enterprise, though.
     
    Kor, XCV330 and pst like this.
  6. Kor

    Kor Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2001
    Location:
    My mansion on Qo'noS
    The silver is also reminiscent of cadet uniforms we saw once or twice in TOS.

    Kor
     
  7. pst

    pst Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2010
    Location:
    los angeles
    not to harp on the kelvin timeline, which basically doesn't even matter anymore. but star trek into darkness' costuming of the USS vengeance crew could easily indicate that starfleet uses unique uniforms for different ships. they even referred to the standard duty uniforms designed by michael kaplan as "enterprise uniforms" behind the scenes.

    so this notion that discovery's uniforms aren't precursors but are contemporaneous with the cage uniforms, isn't without precedent.
     
  8. XCV330

    XCV330 Premium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2017
    Location:
    XCV330
    Might make sense. I notice Epsilon IX crew had a uniform that was still slightly different from the Enterprise (ribbed collaring, no Arrow patch, etc)
    [​IMG]
     
    pst likes this.
  9. marsh8472

    marsh8472 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2016
    Sure, maybe humans are wearing badges on that planet in the Delta Quadrant where the 37's are too. That's not really important. Zefram Cochrane has been on that planet for some 150 years. If he were wearing a bikini instead of whatever he was wearing in that episode it would have no bearing on how people from the 23rd century normally dress.
     
  10. zar

    zar Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2010
    :brickwall: Of course it's not 23rd century dress. It's older. That's the point. Cochrane wore a blue flight suit with sewn-on mission patches on the Phoenix, and Starfleet used the same in ENT. How could Cochrane have a badge before ENT? Mindblowing! At least, when one ascribes to your brand of logic.
     
  11. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2001
    Location:
    AI Generated Madness
    Let`s see. Shaped like an arrow head. Little squiddlies in the middle. Looks era appropriate to me.
     
    BillJ, Kor and XCV330 like this.
  12. Kor

    Kor Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2001
    Location:
    My mansion on Qo'noS
    Exactly. I really don't get the point of these threads. I would rather focus on substantial things like writing and characterization instead of such minutiae.

    Kor
     
  13. Crazy Eddie

    Crazy Eddie Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2006
    Location:
    Your Mom
    I'm guessing that YOUR profession doesn't involve directly working with asteroids, considering the smug pretense that your answer consists of.

    Yes, Manfreid von Richtoven -- aka "The Red Barron" -- was killed by ground fire, apparently by someone who wasn't even aiming at him (the lucky bastard shot him in the ass).

    You will not, on the other hand, see soldiers performing battle drills in which they deliberately shoot down entire squadrons of enemy fighters with single-shot rifles. James T. Kirk didn't go into the Kobyashi Maru simulator and order his weapons officer to fire six lucky shots at the Klingon warships; simulation or not, THAT is not a real thing.

    So the ability of photon torpedoes to reliably destroy unshielded targets is, apparently, one of their basic features, which for a weapon that supposedly has an explosive yield equivalent to a strategic nuclear warhead, makes plenty of sense (just ask the crew of the Gagarin). But that depiction is WILDLY inconsistent in Star Trek to the point that half the time torpedoes aren't a whole lot more deadly than phasers and are literally used interchangeably (the original script for "Search for Spock" called for phasers against Kruge's ship but switched to torpedoes in film because the effects shot was cheaper to do).

    That depends. Are we playing Halo 1 or Halo 2?
     
  14. marsh8472

    marsh8472 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2016
    [​IMG]

    He had all sorts of gadgets attached to his suit there. I don't know what that's supposed to be about. How do you know that thing is a badge? Maybe it's some kind of attachment device like what Tom Paris had to communicate with Alice better. None of this relates to Starfleet standards of course.
     
  15. XCV330

    XCV330 Premium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2017
    Location:
    XCV330
    I'm waiting for the "The tread pattern of STD boots does not match TOS. Photographic proof!" thread.
     
    fireproof78 and Kor like this.
  16. zar

    zar Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2010
    "Why couldn't they be like formal shoes? They look like running shoes, it's stupid."
    Yes, this actually happened.
     
    fireproof78 likes this.
  17. pst

    pst Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2010
    Location:
    los angeles
    such minutiae are the bread and butter of star trek fans since the beginning of the franchise. the details matter just as much as the writing and characterization to some of us. certainly no less worthy of discussion.
     
  18. marsh8472

    marsh8472 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2016
    What prompted me to make the thread was seeing Kol holding Captain Georgiou's badge. They brought attention to the badges with that scene.
     
  19. XCV330

    XCV330 Premium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2017
    Location:
    XCV330
    yikes.

    future thread:
    "Why are they using 1200 thread count polyester vs 400 like they REALLY used in the 23rd century. Unwatchable Garbage!"
     
  20. Crazy Eddie

    Crazy Eddie Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2006
    Location:
    Your Mom
    Obligatory firefly reference:
    Mal: I got a personal code. I never run from a fight.
    Inara: lol yes you do! You do it all the time!
    Mal: Well... um... I'm not running from THIS fight.