is Star Trek (1)4 happening?

I'll direct Star Trek 4. I've seen all the TOS movies, but only about 15 episodes of the original show. Just familiar enough to get it, but not too steeped in TOS lore to be beholden to it.

 

Make it 16 episodes and you have my full support.

 

But the new one will be a James Cameron film and all the studios know that Cameron is box office gold, so they are taking a chance on him, not so much the Terminator franchise itself. Heck, if Cameron said he wanted to so a Star Trek film, Paramount would green light that in a instant.

 

Current income for the movie is over $440 million.

 

I liked genisys.

 

Yes, but in the US (where most of the money goes to the studio compared to worldwide) It tanked with a mere $90m. Compare with Beyond's domestic take, which was $159m.

I loved it, and was disappointed when I learned it flopped and we'd never get the planned sequels.

 

Just reading through this thread, and I saw this post:

Made me wonder, would people (want to) see a totally original, standalone Trek movie, one that had no ties to a pre-existing TV series? Could we start to see Trek 'anthology' films along the lines of the standalone Star Wars films?

I really enjoy the Kelvin movies (Beyond is one of my top three Star Trek films) and would definitely like to see more of them, but I quite like the idea of spending a movie with a whole new crew and having an adventure with them. Things could be a bit more unpredictable without having to worry about a sequel. Could be a way forward for the movie arm of the franchise if further Kelvin films are unviable.

 

I'd rather see them do something with the current version of the characters still since, so far, they had been stuck in the past and playing more tos homages than actually getting the chance to do their own thing and being another reality. It's just a waste.

That's the thing. I wouldn't be a bit bitter about discovery or other things being even inspired by the bold changes of this trek, and thus encouraged to be successful while doing something new, if I didn't have to face the reality of the reboot getting wasted instead, and it not really getting the chance discovery is getting now for example.

I'm not happy about beyond being the 'end' for these characters because they hardly got anything. Ending it with beyond feels like an unfinished, unfinalized, trilogy where the first movie never really got a real 'sequel' and the characters never got a real honest chance. A loss of time, a potential completely wasted.

 

I'm really looking forward to seeing the new Enterprise in action.

 

^^^ me too.

I’ve been dreaming of seeing the A leading a Federation fleet into battle against a Klingon armada for a while now.

Prolly won’t happen in that manner, but hoping something eventuates with the Ent-A!

 

It surely wouldn't hurt to see more of the ship in action, especially after a movie where it got destroyed and we only saw her for a few minutes (and that after stid already damaged it so much it took them almost a year to get it back)

 

The obvoius next step is another Kelvin film, I love the cast but a story with just Kirk and Spock on a secret one-off mission with all new characters could be cool. Or some of the cast getting spin off stories?!

If they returned to the Prime Universe it would have to be post-Nemesis or 'lost era' as the TV series is doing the pre-TOS timeline. I can't see Paramount committing to Star Trek in the way Disney is milking Star Wars, however.

 

The only real obvious next step is that there will be a fourteenth Star Trek movie...eventually. But what kind of Trek movie is the question. Even if Bad Robot isn't involved in the next outing, nothing is really off the table, including Prime, Kelvin, or something else entirely.

But I'm more inclined to think that right now, Star Trek is simply on the backburner at Paramount. Or it could be even in the fridge waiting to be thawed out at a later time...

 

They weren’t allowed to release Discovery until 6 months after Beyond so maybe now Discovery is a success and Season 2 is commissioned the deal has turned?

What would a new Prime movie look like, how would you explain to the general audience the switch from reboots back to Prime?

 

Today John Campea talked about Star Trek 4 on his YouTube show, saying he hadn't heard it had been cancelled and still expected it to begin production at some point in the future. He was also excited about the prospect of Chris Hemsworth returning as daddy Kirk. I get the feeling they're still figuring out a script. Beyond still only came out last year

 

At this point, I'm ok. Three is plenty.

They were good, but not great. Enjoyable, but not memorable. If they don't make another one with this cast I'm fine with that.

 

The last two JJTrek/Kelvinverse films have ended up being delayed so I'm not surprised this one is also taking awhile to just even get greenlit.

Beyond was better than ST:ID but I would like more of an exploration focused film than yet another 'Earth/the Federation is in danger and we have to stop the bad guys' plot. They completely wasted Idris Elba in the last film.

 

There will definitely be a next Trek movie. But 2020 is the absolute last chance for this crew, and this iteration. After that, it's simply too old, and they have to create something completely new. Either another reboot of TOS /maybe this time in the "prime" universe?), or something completely different (a 25th century follow up? A TNG/VOY/DS9-crossover movie? A Romulan War movie?)

I'm hoping for something with a little bit of a smaller budget, but more cerebral and talky. Sadly, those have been hit and miss the last few years (For every Interstellar, there is a Blade Runner 2049, for every Arrival an Oblivion). I don't think Trek does particularly good in the big blockbuster action comicbook movie genre. I'd like more classic sci-fi, with some action elements. More an adventure movie.

 

By that logic, Paramount will never release another Trek movie again as long as there is a Trek series in production or only release a movie while a series is in hiatus.

How a Prime movie will look like will always depend on the producers and director involved. As far as explaining it to the general audience, that might not even be remotely necessary since really only longtime/diehard Trekkies really care about what timeline it is. It could simply include one or two elements--even in passing--that Trekkies know aren't Kelvin Timeline and simply get on with the story at hand. For everyone else, they could probably care less about what continuity it is as long as the story and characters are entertaining.

 

now Thor 3 is such a big fat stinking hit (probably going to break 1b) plus the Thorcentric Avengers IW next year will be crazy like 2b maybe it will help the Hemsworth ST4 get fast tracked